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  • sgh
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi Steve,

    If you say so.

    Regards,

    Simon

    PS. Your wife has a very elegant hand.
    Hi Simon,
    I'm just going on the facts that are evident in the MJK3 photo and my example which speaks for itself!
    I've spent quite a fair amount of time looking at these images and enhancing them to extract details etc.

    Many thanks for the compliment of my wife's hand :-)
    Best, Steve

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  • sgh
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    No problem Sam

    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    Thanks Steve. Much appreciated.
    You're most welcome, Sam.

    Also to put the other problem about the photographer's position to bed, it's simply a matter of measuring the distance from intended position to subject - set and focus the lens to that distance - reposition camera to desired position without tripod - confirm measurements - use a small aperture to gain greatest depth of field (as insurance for front to back sharpness within limits of lens) then either **** the shutter and fire or remove and replace lens cap depending on what sort of camera was used to make the exposure.
    As long as the camera is firmly placed, it doesn't need to be tripod mounted, so space is not a great problem.

    Best, Steve

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Steve,

    If you say so.

    Regards,

    Simon

    PS. Your wife has a very elegant hand.

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  • perrymason
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi Michael,

    Who was the first to tell us it was a left hand? Who unilaterally decided that MJK3 was the scene shown in MJK1 but taken from a different angle?

    The two photos don't look anything like each other.

    Regards,

    Simon

    PS. I like your photographer scenario. That's really thinking outside the box.
    I would agree Simon,...there are discrepancies like the angle of Marys left leg in both shots, that suggest the exact position of her leg as she is found wasnt photographed in both shots....or possibly in either, for that matter.

    Best regards Mr Wood,...and my best to your family.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Thanks Steve. Much appreciated.

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  • sgh
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    MJK3 photo - Left hand - proof that it the IS left hand!

    Here's a quick knock up photo demonstration to clear this problem of the left hand of MJK3 photo purported to be the right hand affair.

    In the picture below:

    On the left is a close up of the MJK3 photo in question showing part of her hand, and on the right is my wife's left hand.
    Ok, I didn't go to the pains of a forensic standard shot, but near enough to prove once and for all that what you see IS MJK's left hand.
    Agreed, MJK's left little finger does look like a right thumb in the crime scene photo, however, it is partly hidden by the foreground details and partly in shadow thus appearing like a right thumb.
    Simply follow my like for like A. B. & C markings in both photos and you will see for yourself.

    A = The crease under the left wrist.
    B = The left fleshy edge of the back of the hand.
    C = Left little finger. The joint nearest the knuckle is partly hidden in MJK3 photo, just below C .

    Suzi & Sam are 100% correct - it is positively MJK's left hand.
    I hope this puts clarity to misunderstanding the photograph.

    Best, Steve
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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Michael,

    Who was the first to tell us it was a left hand? Who unilaterally decided that MJK3 was the scene shown in MJK1 but taken from a different angle?

    The two photos don't look anything like each other.

    Regards,

    Simon

    PS. I like your photographer scenario. That's really thinking outside the box.

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  • perrymason
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    Its like a riddle....when must a thumb from a right hand look like a left hand pinky finger? When we are told it is.

    Since no-one knows where the camera was set up to shoot MJK3...in the photographers hand, on the rolled up bedding between the wall and bed,...using a remote shutter like a squeeze bulb...I think its possible that a photographer could have set a mirror on that rolled up bedding, so he could focus the shot while viewing through the lens from the rear or from above the camera. Its hard to imagine there was room to do so from the right side of the bed. When its time to shoot the pic...he ducks...using his right hand to brace himself while in the crouch, his left to squeeze the bulb.

    Best regards all

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Gareth,

    If you say so.

    B.B.B.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • Suzi
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    Thanks Gareth!... x

    Give the man a hand!...........the LEFT one! xx

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  • Sam Flynn
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    The same hand

    It's not a thumb - you can tell from comparing both photos that it's the same hand, namely the left. Note the "groove" or shadow in the area of the bent wrist in MJK1, which matches precisely its counterpart in MJK3 (connected by a blue line below), and the corresponding "crest" of the bedsheet a few inches away from the hand (shown by the two red lines):

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  • Suzi
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    The other hand! xx

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Suzi,

    It can be a thumb if it's a right hand.

    But whose hand? And where are they hiding?

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • Suzi
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    It is!!! taken from the partition towards the door

    OK it does look like a thumb but it can't be!

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Suzi,

    If you say so.

    Regards,

    Simon

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