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  • #61
    Hi Gareth,

    If you say so.

    B.B.B.

    Regards,

    Simon
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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    • #62
      Its like a riddle....when must a thumb from a right hand look like a left hand pinky finger? When we are told it is.

      Since no-one knows where the camera was set up to shoot MJK3...in the photographers hand, on the rolled up bedding between the wall and bed,...using a remote shutter like a squeeze bulb...I think its possible that a photographer could have set a mirror on that rolled up bedding, so he could focus the shot while viewing through the lens from the rear or from above the camera. Its hard to imagine there was room to do so from the right side of the bed. When its time to shoot the pic...he ducks...using his right hand to brace himself while in the crouch, his left to squeeze the bulb.

      Best regards all

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      • #63
        Hi Michael,

        Who was the first to tell us it was a left hand? Who unilaterally decided that MJK3 was the scene shown in MJK1 but taken from a different angle?

        The two photos don't look anything like each other.

        Regards,

        Simon

        PS. I like your photographer scenario. That's really thinking outside the box.
        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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        • #64
          MJK3 photo - Left hand - proof that it the IS left hand!

          Here's a quick knock up photo demonstration to clear this problem of the left hand of MJK3 photo purported to be the right hand affair.

          In the picture below:

          On the left is a close up of the MJK3 photo in question showing part of her hand, and on the right is my wife's left hand.
          Ok, I didn't go to the pains of a forensic standard shot, but near enough to prove once and for all that what you see IS MJK's left hand.
          Agreed, MJK's left little finger does look like a right thumb in the crime scene photo, however, it is partly hidden by the foreground details and partly in shadow thus appearing like a right thumb.
          Simply follow my like for like A. B. & C markings in both photos and you will see for yourself.

          A = The crease under the left wrist.
          B = The left fleshy edge of the back of the hand.
          C = Left little finger. The joint nearest the knuckle is partly hidden in MJK3 photo, just below C .

          Suzi & Sam are 100% correct - it is positively MJK's left hand.
          I hope this puts clarity to misunderstanding the photograph.

          Best, Steve
          Attached Files

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          • #65
            Thanks Steve. Much appreciated.
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
              Hi Michael,

              Who was the first to tell us it was a left hand? Who unilaterally decided that MJK3 was the scene shown in MJK1 but taken from a different angle?

              The two photos don't look anything like each other.

              Regards,

              Simon

              PS. I like your photographer scenario. That's really thinking outside the box.
              I would agree Simon,...there are discrepancies like the angle of Marys left leg in both shots, that suggest the exact position of her leg as she is found wasnt photographed in both shots....or possibly in either, for that matter.

              Best regards Mr Wood,...and my best to your family.

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              • #67
                Hi Steve,

                If you say so.

                Regards,

                Simon

                PS. Your wife has a very elegant hand.
                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                • #68
                  No problem Sam

                  Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                  Thanks Steve. Much appreciated.
                  You're most welcome, Sam.

                  Also to put the other problem about the photographer's position to bed, it's simply a matter of measuring the distance from intended position to subject - set and focus the lens to that distance - reposition camera to desired position without tripod - confirm measurements - use a small aperture to gain greatest depth of field (as insurance for front to back sharpness within limits of lens) then either **** the shutter and fire or remove and replace lens cap depending on what sort of camera was used to make the exposure.
                  As long as the camera is firmly placed, it doesn't need to be tripod mounted, so space is not a great problem.

                  Best, Steve

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                    Hi Steve,

                    If you say so.

                    Regards,

                    Simon

                    PS. Your wife has a very elegant hand.
                    Hi Simon,
                    I'm just going on the facts that are evident in the MJK3 photo and my example which speaks for itself!
                    I've spent quite a fair amount of time looking at these images and enhancing them to extract details etc.

                    Many thanks for the compliment of my wife's hand :-)
                    Best, Steve

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by sgh View Post
                      use a small aperture to gain greatest depth of field (as insurance for front to back sharpness within limits of lens) then either **** the shutter and fire...
                      ... presumably, the asterisks should be read as "c0ck", Steve? The letters "****" get filtered out by the rude-word detector in the message-board software.
                      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                      • #71
                        Hi Steve and Gareth,

                        With so many contradictions existing between the two photos, why do you persist in believing that MJK3 is the scene depicted in MJK1 but taken from a different angle?

                        Regards,

                        Simon
                        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                          With so many contradictions existing between the two photos, why do you persist in believing that MJK3 is the scene depicted in MJK1 but taken from a different angle?
                          Indeed, Simon. Furthermore, I see no contradictions at all.
                          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                            Hi Steve and Gareth,

                            With so many contradictions existing between the two photos, why do you persist in believing that MJK3 is the scene depicted in MJK1 but taken from a different angle?

                            Regards,

                            Simon
                            Perhaps you could outline these 'contradictions' so that I can try to address!

                            Best, Steve

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                            • #74
                              Hi All,

                              Let's start with the most obvious discrepancy.

                              Where in MJK1 is Mister Bolster/Crocodile as seen in MJK3?

                              And please don't say he's out of frame.

                              Regards,

                              Simon
                              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                                Hi All,

                                Let's start with the most obvious discrepancy.

                                Where in MJK1 is Mister Bolster/Crocodile as seen in MJK3?
                                He's out of frame, Simon.
                                And please don't say he's out of frame.
                                Too late!
                                Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                                "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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