My theory

[caz]

Hi Robert,

I think you may be onto something. A trip to the music hall to interview the novelty acts might be in order. The Two Ronnies knew of a one-legged tap dancer whose specialtity was "high kicks and falling over".

Love,

Caz
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PS Bye bye Sooty. My pet suspect doesn't even have one leg. But he has a hand permanently up his bottom, if that counts.

[Robert]

Caz, I think Sooty fits like a glove. Note the place of work of Robert Paul :

http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/Robert_Paul

[caz]

Case closed then.

What was that, Sweep? No you can't - you should have gone before the show.

Bye bye everybody. Bye bye.

Love,

Harry
XXX

[Robert]

Of course, this will rule out a number of suspects, e.g. if Broad Shoulders was Sooty, then Schwarz would have said :

"The man walked across to the man opposite and whispered something in his ear. The man with the pipe then said : 'You say I'm Lipski?' "

One plus for the one-legged man, is that it wasn't Annie that Cadosche heard falling against the fence - it was Jack, who did a tap dance as he killed Annie.

[caz]

Hi Robert,

Of course, Sooty is the better suspect if we seek a silent killer. His motive in Buck's Row would have been that when he whispered in the woman's ear: "Polly put the kettle on", she disobeyed and said her new bonnet suited her better.

When he whispered in Mary Kelly's ear: "Mary had a little lamb", she put the kettle on and said: "I know that one -

Mary had a little lamb,
It had a sooty foot.
And into Mary's bread and jam,
Its sooty foot he put".

Then Sooty whispered: "Are you taking the pi**?" and got his wand out.

Love,

Caz
X

[celee]

I know I am going to get a lot of you telling just how wrong I am and I don't mind...I'm just throwing my own idea into the ring and if you disagree with me then I need a good comeback from you rather than anyone saying "What a load of rubbish"

I looked and stared at that picture for a good ten minutes, obviously I didn't enjoy it but Idid it to get an idea flowing.

I looked at the way the legs were layed out and I suddenly became aware that her killer had sex with her and killed her during the event. My view is that she taunted him, maybe because of the size of his penis or stamminer, and he went wild. Nearby he kept a knife while he was on top and then slit her throat.

From this, as I view, he paniced and decided to hide his tree in a forest....he carved her body up (post death).....Mary was not a Ripper victim, she was a victim of a client she had known for some while prior to the murders.


Right. I'm open for my theory to be torn apart with some logic and not a just a statement

Hi,

Okay, the idea that the killer and Mary engaged in some form of twist is solid. It would explain why she undressed. However, maybe he tried to have sex with her. Maybe he even wanted to have sex with her, but he could not get it up. In my opinion, if Kelly's killer was trying to engage or actually had sex with Kelly, then she was killed by somebody other then Jack the Ripper.

Your friend, Brad

[Robert]

Caz, your thoughts echo mine. In fact I think we can trace a definite nursery rhyme pattern to these murders.

I believe Sooty used Sweep as an accomplice. On Sept 30th, they first went to Berner St where Sooty whispered "Izzy-wizzy, let's get Lizzie." Then they made their way to Mitre Sq.

"Sing a song of sixpence" - note the bruise on Kate's hand the size of a sixpence. "The king was in his counting house" - this can only refer to Morris. He was sitting there wondering what to do, when a tiny dog appeared squeaking at his door. "Sweep!" cried Morris. "Of course, I must sweep the steps."

With Morris thus occupied, Sooty could attend to Kate, and coolly and clinically pecked off her nose.

After this, Sooty cleaned up by having Sweep squirt him with a water pistol.

[Midnyte]

Imagination

For dear Stewart P.Evans, who said I have a good imagination:

Our Mary showed a shapely calf,
As she kicked high in the air.
She danced a jig for the boys in the pub,
And loosened her long hair.
With sweat on her brow, and a smile on her lips,
She drank to forget about Joe.
So off into the dark, deadly night,
With the Ripper she did go.

Joan

[caz]

Hi Robert,

A masterful summary of the double event.

And we mustn't forget how the dastardly glove puppets went on to sweet-talk Liz Prater's cat into waking her up to hear Sooty's girlfriend Soo utter a bogus cry of "Oh murder" to give him a false alibi:

Hey Diddles Diddles
The cat on the fiddle
The cow will jump out of her skin.

Love,

Caz
X

[Robert]

And of course, Caz, the malevolent duo took care to throw suspicion on an innocent man by penning this ditty to the Sun newspaper in 1894 :

Tom, Tom, the piper's son
Stole a womb and away did run
The womb was eat
In spirits neat
And Tom went jobbing down the street

[caz]

Another blame-shifting opportunity came for Sooty and Sweep when people started to theorise that the culprit had been damaged as a child by being deprived of his favourite teatime tv shows. Few are aware of this rare piece of graffiti found chalked in a naughty schoolboy hand outside the BBC Television Centre and quickly ordered to be erased by a nervous head of Light Entertainment:

Little Jack Ripper
Was only a nipper
When dreaming of kidney pie.
Sucking his thumb
He blamed it on mum
And said "What a good boy am I".

Love,

Caz
X

[Robert]

Indeed, Caz, and one can only speculate as to the effect a show like "Crackerjack" would have had on a sensitive boy. "Jackanory" ditto.

Personally I have always had my suspicions of Uncle Bulgaria - "just cleaning up the streets." And the more I think it over, the firmer my suspicions become. The truth, however, will never be known, and did at one time lie at the bottom of a waste paper bin, if my conjectures be correct.

[caz]

Hi Robert,

My research has just turned up the following damning evidence from Nursery Corner...

Jack and Jane went up Brick Lane
To have some slap and tickle.
Jack attacked and Jane fell back
And cried out "What a pickle!"

Up Jack got and home did trot
As fast as he could caper:
"I just can't wait to relive our date
And read it in the paper".

Love,

Caz
X

[kensei]

Hi,

Okay, the idea that the killer and Mary engaged in some form of twist is solid. It would explain why she undressed. However, maybe he tried to have sex with her. Maybe he even wanted to have sex with her, but he could not get it up. In my opinion, if Kelly's killer was trying to engage or actually had sex with Kelly, then she was killed by somebody other then Jack the Ripper.

Your friend, Brad

Sorry that Brad and I are interrupting the witty banter, it's actually very funny. I just thought I'd chyme in with my two cents' worth. It's always been my impression that the Ripper deliberately posed Mary's body in a sexual position, for whatever reason gave him satisfaction, much as Elizabeth Short was posed in the Black Dahlia case.

[Nothing to see]

I don't get it. Sorry, Non British.

Did Jack pose MJK? I've read some of the dissertations posted here and one struck me as interesting. That the photos taken in 13 Miller's Ct were after the bed had been moved so the photog could gain access.
Not the front on one that everyone knows but the photo taken from the wall.

I still don't get the puppet refs but that's OK.