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Chava.
So here we go round and round in circles as you again ignore what I wrote and refuse to answer the question put to you. Instead you attempt to cover your deflection with a pseudo-scientific post about digestion which has nothing to do with anything I said. Let’s try this again and see if I can get a straight answer from you.
You claim that a time frame for the of death for Mary Kelly given by a group of forensic pathologists which supports a time of death seemingly given by Dr. Phillips, who was there and who actually examined the body and took part in the autopsy, is incorrect.
You say that it is incorrect because a “little pool of helpful medical examiners (and one profiler)” have told you that it takes 1 to 3 hours for a meal of fish and chips (without being able to prove exactly what the nature of the meal was) to become fully digested.
This is the extent of the forensic advice you seem to have received about the death of Mary Kelly.
YOU have come up with a time frame of between 1:30 and 2:00 am for Kelly’s death. YOU have. Not your “little pool of helpful medical examiners (and one profiler),” but YOU. In fact your helpful medical examiners (and one profiler) refuse to say anything about the time of death so YOU are making the claim that the group of forensic pathologists and Dr. Phillips are wrong.
YOU base this on the incomplete information we have on the events of the night of the 8/9 of November, 1888, and when YOU think/guess/assume Kelly may have eaten. That the group of forensic pathologists and Dr. Phillips have based their opinions on a whole range of factual medical observation and years of experience is irrelevant. They are wrong and YOU are right.
Why can’t Kelly have eaten her last meal around 6 to 10 am? Because you point out that Caroline Maxwell says that Kelly was hung over and vomiting between 8:00 and 8:30 that morning so she probably wasn’t going to eat a “greasy” meal of fish and chips when in that state. She, therefore, must have eaten much earlier. Allow me to point out that you can only use this information to rule out eating a meal at this time if you believe Maxwell’s testimony that she spoke to Kelly between 8:00 and 8:30, and saw her again later. If you believe her then YOUR time of death of between 1:30 and 2:00 am is wrong because she was seen alive six hours later. If you disbelieve Maxwell then there is absolutely nothing which you can claim rules against Kelly eating her last meal around 6 to 10 am. No hang over, no illness, no vomiting.
Here is the question one more time. Why do you believe that YOUR opinions on complex forensic medical questions are greater or more knowledgeable than the experts. Can you tell me that without the runaround?
Wolf.
So here we go round and round in circles as you again ignore what I wrote and refuse to answer the question put to you. Instead you attempt to cover your deflection with a pseudo-scientific post about digestion which has nothing to do with anything I said. Let’s try this again and see if I can get a straight answer from you.
You claim that a time frame for the of death for Mary Kelly given by a group of forensic pathologists which supports a time of death seemingly given by Dr. Phillips, who was there and who actually examined the body and took part in the autopsy, is incorrect.
You say that it is incorrect because a “little pool of helpful medical examiners (and one profiler)” have told you that it takes 1 to 3 hours for a meal of fish and chips (without being able to prove exactly what the nature of the meal was) to become fully digested.
This is the extent of the forensic advice you seem to have received about the death of Mary Kelly.
YOU have come up with a time frame of between 1:30 and 2:00 am for Kelly’s death. YOU have. Not your “little pool of helpful medical examiners (and one profiler),” but YOU. In fact your helpful medical examiners (and one profiler) refuse to say anything about the time of death so YOU are making the claim that the group of forensic pathologists and Dr. Phillips are wrong.
YOU base this on the incomplete information we have on the events of the night of the 8/9 of November, 1888, and when YOU think/guess/assume Kelly may have eaten. That the group of forensic pathologists and Dr. Phillips have based their opinions on a whole range of factual medical observation and years of experience is irrelevant. They are wrong and YOU are right.
Why can’t Kelly have eaten her last meal around 6 to 10 am? Because you point out that Caroline Maxwell says that Kelly was hung over and vomiting between 8:00 and 8:30 that morning so she probably wasn’t going to eat a “greasy” meal of fish and chips when in that state. She, therefore, must have eaten much earlier. Allow me to point out that you can only use this information to rule out eating a meal at this time if you believe Maxwell’s testimony that she spoke to Kelly between 8:00 and 8:30, and saw her again later. If you believe her then YOUR time of death of between 1:30 and 2:00 am is wrong because she was seen alive six hours later. If you disbelieve Maxwell then there is absolutely nothing which you can claim rules against Kelly eating her last meal around 6 to 10 am. No hang over, no illness, no vomiting.
Here is the question one more time. Why do you believe that YOUR opinions on complex forensic medical questions are greater or more knowledgeable than the experts. Can you tell me that without the runaround?
Wolf.
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