Mary Kelly's Room

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Simon!

At least I have been joking about the FM!

When one looks at the pattern carefully enough, it's pretty easy to notice the thing being only a splash of blood on the wall!

All the best
Jukka

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Mike,

It is definately there, if it was blood splatter and then it dribbled down it would not form the letters FM!

Yes, it could, and I've already explained some of the mechanics of how it happens. Granted, oozing blood won't win any prizes for calligraphy, but it doesn't have to when the observer's brain fills in the gaps and makes things more "convincing" than they are.

[Celesta]

Hi Celesta
Nah that's the as yet undiscovered CMWYCML spatter!!

Suz xx


Well, of course, Suzi. But this was the abridged version.

Seriously, though, I can see JTR, lifting Mary's bloodstained hand and with her forefinger, like in the movie, Death on Denial, painting his message on the wall. Dramatic.

[anna]

Hi all.

Perhaps it was a message from Jack.......


........FIND ME!.........

[Mike Covell]

Lewis Carroll did it! He was paying homage to the white rabbit.......Follow Me!

Wonder how many of H Division looked into the rabbit hole?

[Soothsayer]

Soothsayer- 'Come on...............' there's nothing on that wall apart from blood and general day to day grime!!!
Suz x

Hi Suz,

I agree (Mrs Soothsayer would be shocked if one of our walls got that dirty).

It is the 'F' and the 'M' drawn (apparently) with blood that intrigues.

But more on that in my subsequent post.

Cheers,

[Soothsayer]

Even if there were an ' FM ' on the wall - which there wasn't - then it could mean anything couldn't it ? Theres no evidence of a connection to Maybrick.

Hi Simon,

I agree, if (as I firmly believe) the FM is on the wall then that in itself is no link to Maybrick - except through the mysterious diary. For me, this is the crux of the issue.

If the diary is a hoax, then the 'FM' must have been spotted by the forger, and they must have inspired the creation of the hoax. The alternative is that the hoaxer either discovered the FM after making reference to them in the hoaxed diary (little short of miraculous), or else the hoaxer made reference to them and we subsequently spotted them (again, little short of miraculous)! The marks which we see as 'FM' are too pronounced to say we are interpreting them. They are either letters, or they are miracles of blood formation.

So - in realistic terms - either our forger was the first ever (unsure where Simon Wood in 1988 appears in the FM story) to spot these letters (and backtracked the whole hoax from them) or else the diary was written by someone who put the letters there in the first place, our erstwhile killer.

I find both versions too bizarre to believe, but I also find the latter less bizarre than the former, and therefore err on the side of authenticity.

The notion that the letters aren't there is actually irrelevant. Whether or not the FM is actually there, people can see something which closely resembles 'FM', and that's amazingly improbable if they aren't there. If they are there, it's hard to explain the fact without erring on the side of the diary's authenticity (as argued above).

Either way, the 'FM' which either is or is not there, is definitely at the crux of the diary's case (in my opinion).

[Stephen Thomas]

I don't remember this having been mentioned before but it looks like the right side of the supposed 'M' is not a solid line like the rest of it but more like a series of dots that actually extends above the 'M'.

[claire]

Uh, maybe it's the resolution of the pic, but I don't see anything that even resembles letters...however, what I do see is a feline face on the wall directly above the hand, a scary woman face that looks like a photo negative (white outlines, hair) immediately to the right of that, and a sort of Scooby Doo style ghost to the immediate right of that. Just goes to show what the mind can tell us is there!

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Stephen!

My analysis has been;

There isn't any F around and the M is only a splash of blood!

All the best
Jukka

[mike74]

Iam sorry but that is not just blood splatter, you can definately see the M the F is a bit faint but this is an old photo. Also remember that a piece of paper was found at annie chapmans murder with the letter M on it.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Mike!

I am sorry to say this too, but;

While looking at the original copy on the "Photo Archive" here, there isn't anything special coming up at that section of the photo.

Besides, the quality of the LVP photos wasn't quite on the standards of today.

So, unfortunately I have to say, that the blow-up from the original one is just a splash of blood. From which everyone sees, what one wants to see!

All the best
Jukka

[mike74]

Blood does not fall like that and form letters!!

[claire]

I think I must be missing something crucial...what is the argument here? That MJK daubed the walls with the initials of her attacker? That Annie Chapman grabbed a scrap of paper and put the first letter of her attacker's surname on it? Or are we saying that the killer decided to sign their work? None of this, at all, makes any sense whatsoever, for reasons so apparent I can't even be bothered noting them. Particularly since there are no blinkin' letters in the first place.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Mike!

Blood does not fall like that and form letters!!

Like everyone can see, there aren't any letters in the original photo!

Instead there is just a splash of blood there...

And, remember Mike; some people have been thinking, that there is a crucifix there above MJK's body! But like Dan Norder showed on the crashed boards; it's just a technical trick on the copy! Also A.Spallek told on the same thread, that because MJK was a catholic, so there should have been a picture of Christ on the crucifix!

All the best
Jukka