How were the MJK photos taken?

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  • YomRippur
    Detective
    • Sep 2015
    • 105

    #1

    How were the MJK photos taken?

    Since Kelly's room was small and cramped, did it pose any problem for the photographer? Would it have been easier to shoot the front-view photo from outside the room through one of the two windows? There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.
  • Robert St Devil
    Inspector
    • Sep 2015
    • 1025

    #2
    We would still need to know the camera(s) that was used. I know of the drawing showing the photog taking a pic using a tripod [MJK1?], but i,ve wondered if the same camera was used on MJK3. It is a more vertical photo than the wide-shot MJK1. Did the cameraman use another camera, or could he have angled his xamera on its side? Could they have changed the aperture?

    I,m still under the belief that there is a doorknob in MJK3 with light shining thru the window from behind a ,curtain,.
    Last edited by Robert St Devil; 09-01-2016, 09:13 AM.
    there,s nothing new, only the unexplored

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    • Scott Nelson
      Superintendent
      • Feb 2008
      • 2431

      #3

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      • Wickerman
        Commissioner
        • Oct 2008
        • 14900

        #4
        Originally posted by YomRippur View Post
        Since Kelly's room was small and cramped, did it pose any problem for the photographer? Would it have been easier to shoot the front-view photo from outside the room through one of the two windows? There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.
        Do you think this sketch was in the press because that is what witnesses saw?


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        Regards, Jon S.

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        • Pcdunn
          Superintendent
          • Dec 2014
          • 2325

          #5
          The bed is too fancy, there are too many pillows and bedding, the room seems far too spacious, and has a plank floor. Plus, the victim's head is positioned somewhat differently.

          I think the artist used the ever-popular "artistic license."
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          • jason_c
            *
            • Feb 2008
            • 966

            #6
            Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
            The bed is too fancy, there are too many pillows and bedding, the room seems far too spacious, and has a plank floor. Plus, the victim's head is positioned somewhat differently.

            I think the artist used the ever-popular "artistic license."
            All true. However, the artist gets right the correct side of the bed the pic was taken from, the mutilated breasts and the placement of Kelly's left arm. I have no idea if the artist witnessed the photograph being taken, but at the very least he had some detailed knowledge of the scene. It could be a sketch from memory; a memory that was less than photographic.

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            • Yabs
              Detective
              • Nov 2015
              • 374

              #7
              There was also another larger table by the window where the photographer is standing in this sketch.
              other artists included this table in their sketches of the room.
              I recon the pic was taken through the window

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              • PRB
                Cadet
                • Aug 2014
                • 16

                #8
                Originally posted by YomRippur View Post
                ...There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.
                If you slotted a mirror between the bed and partition wall you could take that shot and possibly not need to move the bed at all. You'd just have to reverse the negative to achieve the positive print.

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                • Pierre
                  Inactive
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 4407

                  #9
                  Originally posted by YomRippur View Post
                  Since Kelly's room was small and cramped, did it pose any problem for the photographer? Would it have been easier to shoot the front-view photo from outside the room through one of the two windows? There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.
                  The bed was with high probability standing in front of the entrance to the room.

                  Regards, Pierre

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                  • Pierre
                    Inactive
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 4407

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Robert St Devil View Post
                    We would still need to know the camera(s) that was used. I know of the drawing showing the photog taking a pic using a tripod [MJK1?], but i,ve wondered if the same camera was used on MJK3. It is a more vertical photo than the wide-shot MJK1. Did the cameraman use another camera, or could he have angled his xamera on its side? Could they have changed the aperture?

                    I,m still under the belief that there is a doorknob in MJK3 with light shining thru the window from behind a ,curtain,.
                    There are a lot of spots in the photograph. What you believe is a door-knob is with high probability one of the bigger spots.

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                    • David Orsam
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                      • Nov 2014
                      • 7916

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pierre View Post
                      The bed was with high probability standing in front of the entrance to the room.
                      We don't need to talk about probabilities because we know exactly where the bed was from the evidence of Dr Phillips:

                      "On the door being opened it knocked against a table, the table I found close to the left-hand side of the bedstead and the bedstead was close up against the wooden partition".

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                      • Yabs
                        Detective
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 374

                        #12
                        Quick question, is the base of Mary's bed broken or is the white area that looks like split timber a blemish on the original photograph?
                        If it's broken it looks as though the metal container is actually propping the base up.
                        Which would make the bed very difficult to move.

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                        • Robert St Devil
                          Inspector
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 1025

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pierre View Post
                          There are a lot of spots in the photograph. What you believe is a door-knob is with high probability one of the bigger spots.
                          No, Pierre, it isn,t, but we,ve been down this path before... except now you are calling it a ,,bigger spot,, but in your original theory, it became a hook on the wall or something similar only after I pointed it out to you.
                          there,s nothing new, only the unexplored

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                          • DJA
                            *
                            • May 2015
                            • 4700

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Yabs View Post
                            Quick question, is the base of Mary's bed broken or is the white area that looks like split timber a blemish on the original photograph?
                            If it's broken it looks as though the metal container is actually propping the base up.
                            Which would make the bed very difficult to move.
                            Blemish.

                            Metal container is a multi purpose bath/wash tub.
                            Last edited by DJA; 09-02-2016, 07:34 PM. Reason: Added wash tub.

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                            • Scott Nelson
                              Superintendent
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2431

                              #15
                              Was there anything in it?

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