Since Kelly's room was small and cramped, did it pose any problem for the photographer? Would it have been easier to shoot the front-view photo from outside the room through one of the two windows? There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.
How were the MJK photos taken?
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We would still need to know the camera(s) that was used. I know of the drawing showing the photog taking a pic using a tripod [MJK1?], but i,ve wondered if the same camera was used on MJK3. It is a more vertical photo than the wide-shot MJK1. Did the cameraman use another camera, or could he have angled his xamera on its side? Could they have changed the aperture?
I,m still under the belief that there is a doorknob in MJK3 with light shining thru the window from behind a ,curtain,.Last edited by Robert St Devil; 09-01-2016, 09:13 AM.there,s nothing new, only the unexplored
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Do you think this sketch was in the press because that is what witnesses saw?Originally posted by YomRippur View PostSince Kelly's room was small and cramped, did it pose any problem for the photographer? Would it have been easier to shoot the front-view photo from outside the room through one of the two windows? There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.

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The bed is too fancy, there are too many pillows and bedding, the room seems far too spacious, and has a plank floor. Plus, the victim's head is positioned somewhat differently.
I think the artist used the ever-popular "artistic license."Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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All true. However, the artist gets right the correct side of the bed the pic was taken from, the mutilated breasts and the placement of Kelly's left arm. I have no idea if the artist witnessed the photograph being taken, but at the very least he had some detailed knowledge of the scene. It could be a sketch from memory; a memory that was less than photographic.Originally posted by Pcdunn View PostThe bed is too fancy, there are too many pillows and bedding, the room seems far too spacious, and has a plank floor. Plus, the victim's head is positioned somewhat differently.
I think the artist used the ever-popular "artistic license."
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If you slotted a mirror between the bed and partition wall you could take that shot and possibly not need to move the bed at all. You'd just have to reverse the negative to achieve the positive print.Originally posted by YomRippur View Post...There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.
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The bed was with high probability standing in front of the entrance to the room.Originally posted by YomRippur View PostSince Kelly's room was small and cramped, did it pose any problem for the photographer? Would it have been easier to shoot the front-view photo from outside the room through one of the two windows? There was another photo taken from the back of the room. How was that accomplished really? The back of the room was a wall partition that was very close to the bed. That spot offered even less space to put the camera than the front of the room.
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There are a lot of spots in the photograph. What you believe is a door-knob is with high probability one of the bigger spots.Originally posted by Robert St Devil View PostWe would still need to know the camera(s) that was used. I know of the drawing showing the photog taking a pic using a tripod [MJK1?], but i,ve wondered if the same camera was used on MJK3. It is a more vertical photo than the wide-shot MJK1. Did the cameraman use another camera, or could he have angled his xamera on its side? Could they have changed the aperture?
I,m still under the belief that there is a doorknob in MJK3 with light shining thru the window from behind a ,curtain,.
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We don't need to talk about probabilities because we know exactly where the bed was from the evidence of Dr Phillips:Originally posted by Pierre View PostThe bed was with high probability standing in front of the entrance to the room.
"On the door being opened it knocked against a table, the table I found close to the left-hand side of the bedstead and the bedstead was close up against the wooden partition".
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Quick question, is the base of Mary's bed broken or is the white area that looks like split timber a blemish on the original photograph?
If it's broken it looks as though the metal container is actually propping the base up.
Which would make the bed very difficult to move.
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No, Pierre, it isn,t, but we,ve been down this path before... except now you are calling it a ,,bigger spot,, but in your original theory, it became a hook on the wall or something similar only after I pointed it out to you.Originally posted by Pierre View PostThere are a lot of spots in the photograph. What you believe is a door-knob is with high probability one of the bigger spots.there,s nothing new, only the unexplored
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Blemish.Originally posted by Yabs View PostQuick question, is the base of Mary's bed broken or is the white area that looks like split timber a blemish on the original photograph?
If it's broken it looks as though the metal container is actually propping the base up.
Which would make the bed very difficult to move.

Metal container is a multi purpose bath/wash tub.
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