where does the victims lie actually??

[Monty]

..with your women and yer fancy car..

Monty

[anna]

Hi Philip,
Happened upon this thread last night,and thanks to your links and commentry to accompany them,I had a very enjoyable evening.
Then, I thought,let's see all the ghosty ghouly things that the Guildford ghost club can offer up,and watched music and my favourite of all....Mr Did's confession to the JTR crimes...he was here under our noses all the time!!!!!!
brilliant!..and plenty of ghostly things provided by others,which I loved trawling through.
So, well done that chap!!!! thought Mary's grave looked a bit rough though!
Hey,Andy! how are you,long time since we spoke last.
If you get up a "graveyard crawl", so to speak,count me in!...cool.

[George Hutchinson]

Hi Anna. Just for clarity - there is no Guildford Ghost Club. GG is my ID on YouTube and it's just my own video clips (I can't see a paranormal group with masses of Sigur Rós and Duke Special concert clips...)

PHILIP

[aspallek]

Fooled you as well, then, Billy.

It never ceases to amaze me that people think I actually contribute much! Clacky does more than I do. I'm just more vocal about it.

Thanks, Andy, also. I can't recall where I got the info on the location. I have a feeling you told me the plot number and I asked at the office where it was when I went. It's really only about a dozen steps from where Liz is buried, much like the distance between Polly and Catherine at the CoL.

PHILIP

Philip,

A woman named Sheila at the East London Cemetery was very helpful in confirming the burial of an unidentified female that fits the description of the PST. I believe the plot number is given in a memo that can be found in the Sourcebook. Sheila also gave me info about come common graves were re-used. Nothing was removed, only dirt fill brought in so that new burials took place on top of old ones. The torso is still under there somewhere then, perhaps still preserved in spirits though I quite doubt it.

Interestingly, although press reports describe Coles' burial at the East London Cemetery, Sheila could not find record of it under "Coles" or any known aliases.

[Mike Covell]

I am quite a sad person. I subscribed to Philips channel on youtube a long time ago!

[anna]

Hi Philip.
Thanks for the clarity.I'm not really up on things like Utube I'm afraid,so tend to take things literally!!! I'm very interested in the subject of ghosts.
Thanks anyway for the enjoyable tour around all the sites etc.I loved the mortuary trip.You did very well to hold the camera still while climbing over things.Gave me a chill to see the actual tiles on the wall that would have been there in 1888!!Exciting stuff.
Kind Regards.
Anna.

[Bulldog]

Interestingly, although press reports describe Coles' burial at the East London Cemetery, Sheila could not find record of it under "Coles" or any known aliases.

Hi Andy,

I just came across this thread, hence the delayed reply.

Frances Coles was buried at the East London Cemetery on 25 Februray 1891. There is no doubt about that. It is almost certain that her correct name was used. That name, however, was often carelessly recorded as "Cole", a far more common surname, and the people at the cemetery might have made the same mistake. Some of the examples that I have encountered include:

The entire family in the 1861 census.

The 1881 census record of James, Frances's brother, when he was in the army.

The 1881 census record of Selina, Frances's sister, an inmate of the St. Olave's Union Workhouse.

Even her (Selina's) 1897 death certificate identifies her as Cole.

If the cemetery recorded her as "Cole" and someone made a computer search for the literal "Coles", she probably wouldn't show up in the search results.

Just a thought.

Bulldog

[aspallek]

Well I suppose it could be such a mistake, however I think my contact would have mentioned something if she came across a "Frances Cole" who was buried on the same day as the "Frances Coles" I asked her to check on. I suspect perhaps the cemetery records may be incomplete or otherwise somehow flawed.

[WARSPITE]

Hi Andy,
Many thanks for the grave locations. Ive never visited them myself,apart from MKs 20yrs ago. Im very interested in visiting them. Perhaps you can let me know when you next go, love to tag along.
WARSPITE (DRWHITBY@AOL.COM)