Due to the lack of discussion of this murder and my interest in it I thought I would ask for everyone's opinions on this curious case. Was Austin a victim of JTR years after the main killings? It was the same doss house (35 Dorset St) Chapman stayed at before her death, she [Austin]was attacked while asleep or choked out into unconsciousness (like Chapman possibly was in the Hanbury Street yard) and her private parts attacked. To me it seems the killer may have choked Austin while she was asleep but when he started ripping the pain woke her up. Also, there seems to be a discrepancy regarding what cubicle she was actually in. Another interesting point for those that like John McCarthy as the Ripper. He owned the doss house at 35 Dorset St where Austin was attacked. Any opinions or new info would be appreciated. This link from a competitor site is pretty good for those unfamiliar with the case.
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Originally posted by The Macdonald Triad View PostDue to the lack of discussion of this murder and my interest in it I thought I would ask for everyone's opinions on this curious case. Was Austin a victim of JTR years after the main killings? It was the same doss house (35 Dorset St) Chapman stayed at before her death, she [Austin]was attacked while asleep or choked out into unconsciousness (like Chapman possibly was in the Hanbury Street yard) and her private parts attacked. To me it seems the killer may have choked Austin while she was asleep but when he started ripping the pain woke her up. Also, there seems to be a discrepancy regarding what cubicle she was actually in. Another interesting point for those that like John McCarthy as the Ripper. He owned the doss house at 35 Dorset St where Austin was attacked. Any opinions or new info would be appreciated. This link from a competitor site is pretty good for those unfamiliar with the case."Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
nah. way too far out in time
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Originally posted by Losmandris View PostPossibly stretching it a little too far I am afraid. Maybe an attempted copy cat?
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Originally posted by The Macdonald Triad View Post
I'm inclined to agree but the connections are remarkable. The assailant could have been one of the three supposed young attackers of Emma Smith in 1888 who by 1901 would be all grown up. Her privates were attacked first, much like Annie Austin.Best wishes,
Tristan
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Originally posted by The Macdonald Triad View PostDue to the lack of discussion of this murder and my interest in it I thought I would ask for everyone's opinions on this curious case. Was Austin a victim of JTR years after the main killings? It was the same doss house (35 Dorset St) Chapman stayed at before her death, she [Austin]was attacked while asleep or choked out into unconsciousness (like Chapman possibly was in the Hanbury Street yard) and her private parts attacked. To me it seems the killer may have choked Austin while she was asleep but when he started ripping the pain woke her up. Also, there seems to be a discrepancy regarding what cubicle she was actually in. Another interesting point for those that like John McCarthy as the Ripper. He owned the doss house at 35 Dorset St where Austin was attacked. Any opinions or new info would be appreciated. This link from a competitor site is pretty good for those unfamiliar with the case.
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Anyone interested in this case will find this essay by Rob Clack of interest.
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Local Inspector Thomas Divall, who investigated the Austin murder, believed the staff and residents at 35, Dorset Street were covering for a ‘well-known local character’.
No one fitted that description better than this man.
https://www.jtrforums.com/forum/the-...-william-maher
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Here’s where it gets a bit complicated/interesting. Billy Maher was Ann McCarthy’s minder. He lived next door to her in Paternoster Row, a few feet away from the entrance to 35, Dorset Street.
Annie was Bill Crossingham’s daughter by his first wife who would be cheated out of her inheritance by Crossingham’s second wife, Maggie Sullivan. The bulk of Crossingham’s fortune went Maggie’s two children, Jeremiah and Matilda, whose father, it seems, was a vicious Ratcliffe Highway thug named Jeremiah McCarthy (no relation to Jack).
In the immediate aftermath of the Austin murder it was Maggie’s brother, Daniel, who apparently misled the police about exactly where the murder had taken place.
Last edited by MrBarnett; 07-26-2022, 05:24 PM.
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William Crossingham died in 1907 and left most of his estate - several thousands of pounds - to his second wife, Maggie. His daughter by his first wife, Annie received £250. Maggie died a few months later, leaving a mere £25 to Annie and most of the rest to her own children. While Maggie was on her death bed, unable to sign it, an amendment was made to her will to show that Annie was her stepdaughter.
Maggie’s daughter, Matilda, had married in Romford in 1906 and was described at the time as the only daughter of William and Margaret Crossingham.
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Originally posted by MrBarnett View PostAnyone interested in this case will find this essay by Rob Clack of interest.
https://www.casebook.org/dissertatio...nn-austin.html
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Originally posted by MrBarnett View PostLocal Inspector Thomas Divall, who investigated the Austin murder, believed the staff and residents at 35, Dorset Street were covering for a ‘well-known local character’.
No one fitted that description better than this man.
https://www.jtrforums.com/forum/the-...-william-maher
I also found and [sic] old green petticoat, it was ripped down from the back seam and lying on the floor, one black stocking covered with human soil, also a dark red handkerchief, such as women wear round their necks, they were also on the floor."
Another instance of a red handkerchief..
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