Did Jack only kill 3?

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi Phil,

I think that entire post is below you, to be honest. You don't have to disapprove of Trevor's methods or his conclusions to know that the remark I quoted isn't on. Nor do you have to look very far to find a rule which it might very well infringe:



It's been said before, but here we are in someone else's house: so we ought to follow their rules.

Nor am I with you re: the 'hacks'. As far as I can tell, you're alluding to (as one dictionary tells me) 'writers who produce dull, mediocre or routine work'. I can't quite tell whether that's aimed at me specifically, or whether you perceive me to be among a group of hacks who all deserve your disdain, or whether you expect me to cheerfully agree with you that there are plenty of hacks around here playing an ugly game. Perhaps it doesn't matter.

Poor form on your part, old chap, I'm afraid. Very poor form.

Regards,

Mark

Hey where were you with your morals, when we had the other lunatic female on here recently slagging people off. Was that acceptable because she was a female.

Whats good for the goose, etc

I am not a sexist in fact I quite like it

[Trevor Marriott]

Phil...as any sort of comment Trevor's was just SO wrong...and I'm genuinely sorry that you don't see that...

All the best

Dave

The problem is that very few on here have any sense of humour at all everything is taken all so seriously.

[mariab]

Trev...I'm really a 54 year old hairy arsed male docker.

You're not by any chance Feigenbaum yourself?

Phil, I'm about to PM you, I payed for the books about 40' min. ago.

[Phil Carter]

Hello Dave,

Actually, by writing 'as indeed' I had seen it and agreed with Mark, but note at the same time the playground ganging up is quick to start and preceeded it. THAT goes unnoticed too. However my response was with 'lol' at the end, part ironic and part written in deflection.

Best wishes

Phil

[Trevor Marriott]

Trev...I'm really a 54 year old hairy arsed male docker. And I can't wait to meet you at York.

...sod my credibility

Have you tried Immac ?

Well I am sure our meeting will be fullfilling and enlightening for both of us you best book an appointment with me as there are several others who want to have a one to one with me might not be able to fit you all in

Colin Cobb has allowed me 45 mins lecture time and 1 hour in the back alley with boxing gloves

[m_w_r]

As indeed do other comments of other intent. Wind-up merchant's words galore abound...
Anything for a cheap laugh at someone's expense, eh? Par for the course for some golfers to hack at out in the long grass. Or should that be hacks, not golfers? Lol

Hi Phil,

I think that entire post is below you, to be honest. You don't have to disapprove of Trevor's methods or his conclusions to know that the remark I quoted isn't on. Nor do you have to look very far to find a rule which it might very well infringe:

4. Don't slander/libel people and don't use insults based on race, orientation or gender.

It's been said before, but here we are in someone else's house: so we ought to follow their rules.

Nor am I with you re: the 'hacks'. As far as I can tell, you're alluding to (as one dictionary tells me) 'writers who produce dull, mediocre or routine work'. I can't quite tell whether that's aimed at me specifically, or whether you perceive me to be among a group of hacks who all deserve your disdain, or whether you expect me to cheerfully agree with you that there are plenty of hacks around here playing an ugly game. Perhaps it doesn't matter.

Poor form on your part, old chap, I'm afraid. Very poor form.

Regards,

Mark

[Trevor Marriott]

I'm sorry Trevor, but that ill-advised comment, whether intended humorously or not, does little for your credibility...

Dave

Your comments have been duly noted !

[Cogidubnus]

As indeed do other comments of other intent. Wind-up merchant's words galore abound...
Anything for a cheap laugh at someone's expense, eh? Par for the course for some golfers to hack at out in the long grass. Or should that be hacks, not golfers? Lol

Phil...as any sort of comment Trevor's was just SO wrong...and I'm genuinely sorry that you don't see that...

All the best

Dave

[Phil Carter]

Well, there's that enlightened attitude again.

Regards,

Mark

Hello Mark,

As indeed do other comments of other intent. Wind-up merchant's words galore abound...
Anything for a cheap laugh at someone's expense, eh? Par for the course for some golfers to hack at out in the long grass. Or should that be hacks, not golfers? Lol

Best wishes

Phil

[Debra A]

I am not getting personal there are enough smart arses on here as it is without the need for a female to join the group.

Trev...I'm really a 54 year old hairy arsed male docker. And I can't wait to meet you at York.

...sod my credibility

[Cogidubnus]

I am not getting personal there are enough smart arses on here as it is without the need for a female to join the group.

I'm sorry Trevor, but that ill-advised comment, whether intended humorously or not, does little for your credibility...

Dave

[Debra A]

The problem is that by keeping 3 dead ducks in the water, the riverbanks get filled with bystanders making claims that the ducks still live and breathe.

Dead ducks just in your opinion though.

[mariab]

A gentle reminder. There is not a scrap of evidence against Kosminski, Druitt, Ostrog, as being capable of, let alone actually murdering anyone. The trundling out of the MacNaghten three
({...} were only mentioned as 'more likely than Cutbush') to be the killer

Correct, though both Kozminski and Ostrog are on record for having attacked people with a knife or gun. Still, their having been mentioned in the MM (even if in a misleading manner) automatically makes them impossible to abandon in a historical discussion of the Whitechapel murders. Not as actual suspects, but as historically considered suspects, in the same capacity as further misleads such as Cream, Klosowski/Chapman, even D'Onston, perhaps Deeming. In other words, people who have been named or considered by the police, even briefly. Here I'm obviously referring not to actual evidence for them being good suspects, but to historical consideration as brought up by Don Souden in his 2 posts earlier on this thread. I'm sure this nuance between plausible suspects and historical suspects has been discussed ad infinitum in older threads, in fact I remember several such discussions in the 2 years I've been active here. But Ripperology is for the most part remaining circular, not (as claimed by some posters here) due to suspectology per se, but to some people clinging to the most outlandish suggestions, both in suspectology and in improbable scenarios, as illustrated perfectly on this thread.

without the need for a female to join the group.

Cuz this is such a close-knit group, everyone agreeing, and Debra Arif is, well, negligible to Ripperology.

[m_w_r]

I am not getting personal there are enough smart arses on here as it is without the need for a female to join the group.

Well, there's that enlightened attitude again.

Regards,

Mark

[Phil Carter]

But then- why rule out Cutbush? -just on Macnaghten's say so?
What is it that people find so threatening about some of us wanting to treat the police involved in the original investigation as if they might have known a thing or two lost to us now? Just in case? Rightly or wrongly, they had opinions.What if one of them was right?

Hello Debs,

I can only speak for myself- I do not 'feel threatened' by anyone wanting to do anything.
The problem is that by keeping 3 dead ducks in the water, the riverbanks get filled with bystanders making claims that the ducks still live and breathe.

What those opinions were show their true value when given the third degree. 'Some people' as you put it, for some unknown reason want to keep these weak suspect examples in the spotlight. Using your terminology (not mine), it seems that 'some people' feel 'threatened' if the likes of Kosminski and Druitt are dismissed. Are they worried that the genre will fold up and die if it happens? Because it won't. It will simply move on.

Best wishes

Phil