Just a poll for the start of 2011. Which, if any, of the non-Canonicals do you think Jack the Ripper attacked / murdered? Just one choice so choose wisely.... I think I can guess the overall winner but here goes......
Poll - Whoch non-Canon did Jack kill?
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Poll - Whoch non-Canon did Jack kill?
38Emily Horsnail0%0Annie Millwood0%0Ada Wilson2.63%1Emma Smith7.89%3Martha Tabram71.05%27Rose Mylett0%0Alice McKenzie15.79%6Elizabeth Jackson0%0Pinchin Street Victim0%0Frances Coles2.63%1Best regards,
Adam
"They assumed Kelly was the last... they assumed wrong" - Me
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I'm not convinced he killed any of the non-canonicals, but I think we have to operate under the assumption that Martha Tabram is the likeliest of any of them to have died at his hands.
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I vote Martha Tabram.
If my memory serves me correctly, Abberline included Marth Tabram in his list of JtR victims which would give us a "C6" but instead we are saddled with the C5 of Macnaughten who didn't even investigate the case.... well I suppose it's the British way...
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I agree with DD. Tabram is definitely the most likely in my opinion. Rather surprised that Emma Smith got a vote.
Best wishes,
Steve.
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i thought martha tabram had been murdered by one of the soldiers she went with that night, or maybe even by Connolly herself. is it really likely that she was a real ripper victim?
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Probably not. But she's more likely than most, or any, of the others, simply by virtue of being closer to the traditional Ripper victimology than most. Another intriguing, if far-fetched, possibility I've heard is that the Ripper came across Tabram's dying or dead body after her heart had been punctured and did the 'body work' himself.Originally posted by Sister Hyde View Posti thought martha tabram had been murdered by one of the soldiers she went with that night, or maybe even by Connolly herself. is it really likely that she was a real ripper victim?
My position at this moment is: none, but if one, then her.
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Well i don't think any of them was a Ripper victim, i even doubt that Long Liz was an actual victim, i really prefer not to base my reflection on it, it might put more mess in my reasonment and i think it's already messy and filled with some many infos.Originally posted by Defective Detective View PostMy position at this moment is: none, but if one, then her.
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Hi Sister HydeOriginally posted by Sister Hyde View Posti thought martha tabram had been murdered by one of the soldiers she went with that night, or maybe even by Connolly herself. is it really likely that she was a real ripper victim?
Even if martha had been murdered by the soldier, she still could be a ripper victim. As in- the soldier was the ripper. I think too many people don't realize that this is a possibility.
Soldier or not, In my mind it is most probable that she was a ripper victim."Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Hi SisterOriginally posted by Sister Hyde View Postand Connolly gave a very detailed description of the men, is there any clue of who they could have been when putting it together with the other infos about them?
When both The PC and Pearly Poll went to the soldiers barracks for a lineup it was basically a total fiasco. The soldier/s were never identified. Also, tellingly, the soldier/s in question never came forward either."Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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so in other word, she was not even able to identify the men she had been with?? or maybe they just weren't there. and yeah it's very obvious that they wouldn't come forward. still i doubt that Martha was a ripper victim. but if she was a ripper victim indeed it would narrow the choices of suspects
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Martha
If any of them are victims of Jack then Tabram is. The whole thing about the soldiers that doesn't sit well with me is the time lag between Pearly Poll seeing Martha go of with her soldier and the body being found. I think that she was a possible first victim.Originally posted by Sister Hyde View Postso in other word, she was not even able to identify the men she had been with?? or maybe they just weren't there. and yeah it's very obvious that they wouldn't come forward. still i doubt that Martha was a ripper victim. but if she was a ripper victim indeed it would narrow the choices of suspectsNeil "Those who forget History are doomed to repeat it." - Santayana
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