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  • richardh
    Inspector
    • Apr 2010
    • 1166

    #76
    Here's the latest attempt at victim position:



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    • GUT
      Commissioner
      • Jan 2014
      • 7841

      #77
      Originally posted by richardh View Post
      Here's the latest attempt at victim position:



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      G'day Richard

      I'd still like the knees pulled up a bit more, but I'm being picky. I think that one description said pulled up as if in pain.
      G U T

      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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      • richardh
        Inspector
        • Apr 2010
        • 1166

        #78
        Okay GUT, I'll get those knees up tomorrow. I'll get her in a semi-tight foetal position.

        Here's the same image (above) only at night, with the gas lamp on the left cottages:



        Of course it would have been a lot darker (almost pitch) than that and obviously the victim isn't dressed yet but I thought it looked quite atmospheric. Was only a quick 'night' test.

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        • GUT
          Commissioner
          • Jan 2014
          • 7841

          #79
          Originally posted by richardh View Post
          Okay GUT, I'll get those knees up tomorrow. I'll get her in a semi-tight foetal position.

          Here's the same image (above) only at night, with the gas lamp on the left cottages:



          Of course it would have been a lot darker (almost pitch) than that and obviously the victim isn't dressed yet but I thought it looked quite atmospheric. Was only a quick 'night' test.

          ta
          I can't see a bl00dy thing but that might be my monitor.
          G U T

          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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          • richardh
            Inspector
            • Apr 2010
            • 1166

            #80
            Funny, When I view the dark images on PC's at work they are VERY dark. But on my home one they look fine. I'm not sure if that's the case for anyone else here. GUT, what do the normal images look like (as opposed to that night time one)?

            Ayone else find them too dark?

            ta
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            • richardh
              Inspector
              • Apr 2010
              • 1166

              #81
              Right, Last one tonight... victim's Knees up!

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              • GUT
                Commissioner
                • Jan 2014
                • 7841

                #82
                Knees good to me.

                I might recline the right shoulder slightly so she is not totally on her side, if that makes sense. But that's nothing more than personal taste I don't think that the evidence can take t any further either way.
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • Beowulf
                  Sergeant
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 537

                  #83
                  Incredible work. Has a spooky feel, and calls to mind nights I walked about in Manhattan, which was filled with similar old buildings and how many little ins and outs they had where someone could be hiding.

                  I did not know there were toilets back there. Any chance the Ripper hid in one? I know, likely many people searched everywhere, and they seem obvious. But certainly it's a place to dodge to.

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                  • GUT
                    Commissioner
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 7841

                    #84
                    G'day Beowulf

                    I did not know there were toilets back there. Any chance the Ripper hid in one? I know, likely many people searched everywhere, and they seem obvious. But certainly it's a place to dodge to.
                    It is a theory I've heard before and in all honesty it makes more sense than many others I've heard, except I really struggle with the scenario that the police didn't check them.
                    G U T

                    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                    • Beowulf
                      Sergeant
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 537

                      #85
                      Of course there is that horrible idea he hid 'down inside', it's been done before. A glance in there from the door would suggest it's empty.

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                      • GUT
                        Commissioner
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 7841

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Beowulf View Post
                        Of course there is that horrible idea he hid 'down inside', it's been done before. A glance in there from the door would suggest it's empty.
                        I have considered that, but it may have made him a little obvious after he climbed out.
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • drstrange169
                          Superintendent
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2409

                          #87
                          Excellent work Richard.

                          Couple of points, according to Blackwell, Mrs Strides face was, "completely towards the wall" and her feet. "almost touched the wall".
                          dustymiller
                          aka drstrange

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                          • richardh
                            Inspector
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1166

                            #88
                            So, do you think I should rotate the body so the face is looking directly to the wall while the feet move closer to the wall?

                            thanks


                            Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
                            Excellent work Richard.

                            Couple of points, according to Blackwell, Mrs Strides face was, "completely towards the wall" and her feet. "almost touched the wall".
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                            • Dr. John Watson
                              Detective
                              • May 2008
                              • 329

                              #89
                              Hi Richard.

                              Here's how Dr. Phillips described Stride's position at the inquest: "The left arm was extended and there was a packet of cachous in the left hand . . . The right arm was over the belly . . . the legs were drawn up with the feet close to the wall."

                              Another description had the feet almost touching the wall and closer to the wall than the head.

                              John
                              "We reach. We grasp. And what is left at the end? A shadow."
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                              • Tom_Wescott
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 7001

                                #90
                                Blackwell's description is wrong. Besides, others had handled Stride before he got to the scene, so what he saw is not how she would originally have been found. Johnston had moved her around but this was kept silent because he was not a doctor and was not supposed to have done that.

                                Yours truly,

                                Tom Wescott

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