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    Elizabeth Stride is the keystone to the WM. Don't bother asking yourself whether or not she was a Ripper victim. Rather, ask yourself why she had to be included as part of the Ripper tally. Approaching it this way around puts the WM in a whole new light.
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Elizabeth Stride is the keystone to the WM. Don't bother asking yourself whether or not she was a Ripper victim. Rather, ask yourself why she had to be included as part of the Ripper tally. Approaching it this way around puts the WM in a whole new light.
    Ok Simon, I don’t know about anyone else of course but you’ve lost me straight away.
    Regards

    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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    • #3
      Consider the consequences of Stride not being included in the Ripper's tally.
      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

        Ok Simon, I don’t know about anyone else of course but you’ve lost me straight away.
        I'll second that.

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        • #5
          Read Post #3.
          Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
            Read Post #3.
            Well if it is a math question I would say 5-1 = 4. Still don't know what you are getting at.

            c.d.

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            • #7
              Ask yourself why it was imperative that Stride had to be included in/couldn't be left out of the Ripper tally.
              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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              • #8
                The Saucy Jacky postcard?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                  The Saucy Jacky postcard?
                  The Macnaghten Memorandum?
                  Regards

                  Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                  “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                  • #10
                    Create a double-event?
                    Sapere Aude

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                    • #11
                      To hide Stride's killing within the other victims?

                      Sapere Aude

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                      • #12
                        Hi Scott and Herlock,

                        You're both right, but Martyn wins a prize off the top shelf.

                        Stride's murder had nothing to do with the "Ripper."

                        But Stride had to be made part of the "Ripper's" tally, because, if she had been treated as the victim of, say, a one-off domestic murder, it would have destroyed any notion of a lone "serial killer" stalking the East End of London.

                        Solution?

                        Send a postcard to the press, sign it Jack the Ripper, and claim Stride as the first victim in a double event.

                        And everyone fell for it. Even Macnaghten.

                        Regards,

                        Simon
                        Last edited by Simon Wood; 06-22-2019, 09:02 PM.
                        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                        • #13
                          Simon,

                          Thanks for the prize but I'm not seeing how exempting Stride as the "Ripper's" work, but seeing it as possible domestic killing, destroys the idea of "lone serial killer".

                          I don't see them necessarily being mutually exclusive ideas.

                          I do feel there is something contrived and artificial about the Double Event and I like the idea of the postcard setting a false narrative.

                          Martyn
                          Sapere Aude

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                          • #14
                            Hi Martyn,

                            You can't promote a "lone serial killer" stalking the East End, when a totally unconnected killing takes place within the hour on the same day.

                            You have to own it.

                            Regards,

                            Simon
                            Last edited by Simon Wood; 06-22-2019, 09:34 PM.
                            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                              Hi Scott and Herlock,

                              You're both right, but Martyn wins a prize off the top shelf.

                              Stride's murder had nothing to do with the "Ripper."

                              But Stride had to be made part of the "Ripper's" tally, because, if she had been treated as the victim of, say, a one-off domestic murder, it would have destroyed any notion of a lone "serial killer" stalking the East End of London.

                              Solution?

                              Send a postcard to the press, sign it Jack the Ripper, and claim Stride as the first victim in a double event.

                              And everyone fell for it. Even Macnaghten.

                              Regards,

                              Simon
                              Hi Simon,

                              Like Martyn i can’t see how Stride needed to be a part of the series? After all she wasn’t mutilated and even today there are many that feel she wasn’t killed by the ripper. The police also had Smith and Tabram.
                              Regards

                              Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                              “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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