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I'm not going to tolerate words being put into my mouth.
That's what you get for eating alphabet soup.
Don.
"To expose [the Senator] is rather like performing acts of charity among the deserving poor; it needs to be done and it makes one feel good, but it does nothing to end the problem."
Well, if I don't agree with you on something, even a small thing, you either go all or talk me up until I do. This thread and your robbery scenario being the best example.
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Tut tut Tom you really have to stop following Maria round the boards all the time, it seems every thread she posts on you post......
It's not about what you know....it's about what you can find out
Perhaps it would be beneficial to factor in that Liz Stride left Goteborg after being a nanny and having her name struck off the registered prostitutes list there. Something few other women accomplished apparently.
Mike R
Hi all,
Returning poster here. I joined Casebook in 1999 and left around 2006 for health reasons. I've spent the last couple of weeks trying to catch up on any new info. The last book I bought was The Ultimate by SPE & Keith.
Mike,
Where did you get the info that Stride was struck off the prostitutes' register in Sweden? David Yost's book on Stride? Elsewhere?
Returning poster here. I joined Casebook in 1999 and left around 2006 for health reasons. I've spent the last couple of weeks trying to catch up on any new info. The last book I bought was The Ultimate by SPE & Keith.
Mike,
Where did you get the info that Stride was struck off the prostitutes' register in Sweden? David Yost's book on Stride? Elsewhere?
Thanks,
Janice
Hi Janice,
I've just recently returned myself, welcome back to you.
I have a soft cover edition of The Best of Ripperologist Magazine, Ripperology, Jack the Ripper and the Victorian East End Edited by Paul Begg, released by Magpie Books in 2007 that has a comprehensive look at Elisabeth's beginnings starting on page 44.
The author was Daniel Olsson.
According to Daniel, it appears that Elisabeth was registered as a prostitute in Goteborg in 1864, disappears from the records until the 10th of November 1865 when she secured a position as a domestic servant servant for Inga Maria Wenzel, nee Hansdotter. She was struck from the prostitutes register 4 days later.
Daniel states ""There were only 2 ways to get off the register, get married or get a job". Most prostitutes failed at both. Since many had police records getting decent work proved difficult. He also noted that in 1865 prostitution was not illegal in Sweden.
Its a great little book and the article on Lis is particularly well researched.
Aw! Ashling! I remember you very well. And I recall how when Alan Sharp used to post as 'Ash', the occasional joke would be playfully made at your and his expense (but never by me, of course!).
Hi Janice,
I've just recently returned myself, welcome back to you.
I have a soft cover edition of The Best of Ripperologist Magazine, Ripperology, Jack the Ripper and the Victorian East End Edited by Paul Begg, released by Magpie Books in 2007 that has a comprehensive look at Elisabeth's beginnings starting on page 44.
The author was Daniel Olsson.
According to Daniel, it appears that Elisabeth was registered as a prostitute in Goteborg in 1864, disappears from the records until the 10th of November 1865 when she secured a position as a domestic servant servant for Inga Maria Wenzel, nee Hansdotter. She was struck from the prostitutes register 4 days later.
Daniel states ""There were only 2 ways to get off the register, get married or get a job". Most prostitutes failed at both. Since many had police records getting decent work proved difficult. He also noted that in 1865 prostitution was not illegal in Sweden.
Its a great little book and the article on Lis is particularly well researched.
Thanks, Mike--for the welcome and the source info! I don't have Yost's book (one of many on my birthday wish list as my income is extremely limited), but a quick Google shows Dave has Olsson in the recommended reading section.
I'm sure several folks will pile on to correct me if I'm wrong (ouch)--but I thought the icy countries did and still do have a warm/different approach to prostitution than the USA does. The thinking behind the (voluntary?) registration being more like a license than a police record. That is, some countries (did? still do?) require periodic physical check-ups for registered prostitutes. If a "socially transferable" condition was detected your "license" got yanked--forever for something like AIDS. Any curable conditions, once treated successfully, would result in the "license" being reinstated.
Anyway, thanks again for the info on Stride. Now I'm wondering if having a baby without being married would have been enough to get her (involuntarily) put on the list.
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