Liz Stride Re-Enactment

[mariab]

Safe for Whitechapel and Stride standards, because of the near proximity of the IWMC. Safer than the streets, were BS approached her and pushed her to the ground.

[c.d.]

Hello CD. And were any of those at Berner st?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn,

Did it have a reputation as a hang out for impoverished homosexuals?

c.d.

[lynn cates]

Leonard Bernstein

Hello CD. Well, they were impoverished.

Homosexual? Well I'd quote Leonard Bernstein and his quip in that regard; but, unfortunately, I'd be banned from Casebook. (Bet Maria has heard it.)

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

C.D. wrote:
Did it have a reputation as a hang out for impoverished homosexuals?
You guys totally crack me up. (Plus, this sounds so Jeffrey Dahmer-ish. Ugh.)
Leonard Bernstein was a Ripperologist? And gay?
Oh, a quip by him. Never heard of it. Can't you just paraphrase it, Lynn?

[c.d.]

Hi Lynn,

Well wasn't everybody in Whitechapel impoverished to some degree? Now if Liz was a high priced call girl then I would see Berner street as a poor choice but I think it much more likely that she took her clients where she could find them.

c.d.

[lynn cates]

'E quipped, 'e did

Hello Maria. No, LB was not a Ripperologist.

I was referring to his quip about socialism and homosexuality.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

confiteor

Hello Maria. I'll try. (This is a paraphrase and from memory--of an old person.)

The story goes that LB was being interviewed and he said, "Some people call me a godless, commie, hippie, pinko, fag@#$--but that's what I am!"

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Confiteor indeed. But not funny, just honest.
Does “pinko“ mean socialist?
The Ripperologist part about Bernstein was a joke.

[lynn cates]

yup

Hello Maria. Yup. It's another word for socialist.

And now I'm off to engage young minds about the Etruscans and the early Roman republic.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

C.D. wrote.
Now if Liz was a high priced call girl then I would see Berner street as a poor choice
A high priced call girl with no teeth, that's what I call a fetish. (Please forgive me, Lizz Stride, for disrespecting the deceased.)
To Lynn:
Have a nice seminar. I know a little bit about the early Roman republic, but nothing whatsoever about the Etruscans (besides pots).

[DVV]

I knew I could rely on you, David!

The best,
Fisherman

Indeed you can Fish, and I mean it.

All the best
David

[Roy Corduroy]

A high priced call girl with no teeth, that's what I call a fetish.

You're still at it Chatty Cathy? Enjoyed our conversation last nite.

Lynn, professor of the great state of Texas: Elizabeth Stride was one of the unfortunates of Whitechapel. Yes she charred, spoke some Yid with the homeboys, mooched a drink, lived with a dockworker. She was in the millieu.

Dutfields Yard? Prostitutes took clients there. Jack the Ripper killed her, one of the unfortunates there, because it was a "Yard" which in England is an enclosed space between structures. The club had nothing to do with it. The police swarmed all over the club like flies on dookie, locked it down and questioned everyone. No spies, no KGB, no Macarena. That's a dance. (Click)

Roy

[mariab]

Hello, Mr Cordyroy. I'm still at it (chin wagging) because I'm a bit ill in bed. (Totally neglecting work, and feeling so guilty - but cozy.)
About the IWMC, I'd still not completely rule out the KGB (the Okhrana). The IWMC was apparently founded by Eleanor Marx, who was Karl Marx's daugther, William Morris wrote an inflammatory article about Stride's murder (as a provocatory act to harm the club) in the Commoweal, and Charles Warren wrote a memo on October 12, 1888 ruminating about a “secret society“ wishing to discredit socialists/Jews with the Berner Street and Mitre square slayings.

[lynn cates]

book

Hello Roy. Thanks. Yes, I read that book too.

Cheers.
LC

[protohistorian]

Dave:

"Fisherman, I am still waiting for how a slit throat leads us to rage."

Why? Is it not perfectly clear that people who use violence to kill often are enraged people? Do we need black eyes to prove a rage? I think not.
Rage, Dave, does not predispose any certain length of time to perform it, nor does it crave specific amounts of physical violence. Cutting the throat of Elizabeth Stride may well have been the most enraged thing her killer ever did.

The best,
Fisherman

That is some truly sloppy thinking. Are there not other reasons people end up with slit throats besides rage? What specifically about the Stride wound package says rage? I understand that YOUR interpretation is rage, but that is your interpretation and it is far from born out in the factual evidence. Dave