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  • lynn cates
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    1888

    Hello Gwyneth. Actually, both socialists AND anarchists were there in 1888. Indeed, that was about the year when the anarchists began to get the upper hand.

    Have you had a go at Rocker's "The London Years"? Good read.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • curious4
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    Books

    Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
    Hi Gwyneth

    another one for your book list then

    "The world that never was" Alex Butterworth

    Not the easiest of reads perhaps but quite interesting, especially regarding the communards

    All the best

    Dave
    Hello Dave,

    Duly noted. The list is getting longer :-).

    Best wishes,

    Gwyneth/C4

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  • Cogidubnus
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    Anarchy

    Hi Gwyneth

    another one for your book list then

    "The world that never was" Alex Butterworth

    Not the easiest of reads perhaps but quite interesting, especially regarding the communards

    All the best

    Dave

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  • curious4
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    Anarchists

    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
    Unless the anarchists paved the yard for free, I would say it was 'professionally' paved. And the material used looks like granite 'setts', known colloquially as cobbles and bog standard for paving in LV London.

    MrB
    Hello Mr B,

    I believe the anarchists arrived ten years later, along with Rudolph Rocker, who rocked, in my opinion. At the time it was a socialist club, new members had to be proposed by a member of the club and accept the principles of socialism. Or so I have read.

    Not that there was a very great difference between anarchism, trades unionists and socialists and all three were disliked by the authorities (to say the least). The picture of an anarchist as a little man with a long coat and a smoking bomb in his hand is a little misleading. Anarchists wanted to do away with governments, it is true, and I can sympathise to some extent, seeing the present crop of greedy incompetents, but where they fell down was the belief that all people, left to their own devices, would help their neighbour(s). Nice dream, but wouldn't ever work. Although between the three of them, conditions for working men (and women) did improve.

    Best wishes,
    C4

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  • curious
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    Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
    Hi Velma

    Philip's book indicates it's likely the yard was repaved during the 1892 improvements to the property...the now famous picture dates from June or July 1900

    All the best

    Dave
    Thanks everyone.
    lm sorry but I do not have the Hitchinson book-- just a limited library.

    With Dave's recent discussion of then and now, I'm reconsidering whether a woman would go all the way to the privy to dust herself off and make herself presentable

    Wandering around that yard sounds daunting -- considering the deep darkness, the possibility of slipping, falling, maybe winding up even more dirty/muddy than she already was.

    I can see her getting off the street to straighten herself out, brush herself off, and pop a freshner into her mouth.

    But would she really have wandered further in the dark and mud with uncertain footing than she had to?

    curious

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  • Cogidubnus
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    how likely is it that the court or yard was paved with stone?
    Hi Velma

    Philip's book indicates it's likely the yard was repaved during the 1892 improvements to the property...the now famous picture dates from June or July 1900

    All the best

    Dave

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  • lynn cates
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    same

    Hello Michael. Thanks.

    "Poirot isn't real, but the Ripper was."

    They are real--or not--in the same way. Both are merely stories; both contain elements of reality.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    right

    Hello Cris. Thanks.

    Absolutely.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
    Unless the anarchists paved the yard for free, I would say it was 'professionally' paved. And the material used looks like granite 'setts', known colloquially as cobbles and bog standard for paving in LV London.

    MrB
    We have one side of town with streets cobbled by stolen cobbles from the other side of town. As the town expanded business owners would pry up stones from the residential side and lay them in front of their stores. The other side stole them back for awhile, but then asphalt became a thing. But there are like 6 square blocks paved with stolen rocks. And a neighborhood called "The Quarry" which is low income housing with streets that look like a jacked up Tetris board.

    It could happen.

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    I'm not saying they did a terrible job, but it wasn't professionally paved.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • MrBarnett
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    Unless the anarchists paved the yard for free, I would say it was 'professionally' paved. And the material used looks like granite 'setts', known colloquially as cobbles and bog standard for paving in LV London.

    MrB
    Last edited by MrBarnett; 01-04-2014, 09:22 PM.

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post

    Seriously, a couple days ago I watched one of my favourite Poirot episodes.

    When Hercule sums up, there is one chap, McNeil who insists that Ridgway is the culprit. More than once the great detective must remind poor McNeil that Ridgway had nothing to do with it.

    On the other hand, a one-track mind has advantages--it rarely derails.
    Poirot isn't real, but the Ripper was.

    Mike

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  • Hunter
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    On the other hand, a one-track mind has advantages--it rarely derails.
    And its destination is predetermined.

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    It was not professionally paved. Do you have Philip Hutchinson's book?

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • MrBarnett
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    Hi Curious,

    Cobbles or granite setts, possibly.

    Rgds,

    MrB.

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