A problem with the "Eddowes Shawl" DNA match

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  • Debra A
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 3504

    #91
    Originally posted by Observer View Post
    Are you seriously trying to tell me that if the "mistake" had not been pointed out on this thread other infinitely more knowledgeable experts in the field would not have passed comment?
    I'm saying that Dr Louhelainen has been specifically asked about this by someone involved here and he has given the impression he would be interested in discussion about it.
    Are you seriously suggesting Chris has no right to ask about it?

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    • Observer
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Mar 2008
      • 3177

      #92
      Originally posted by Debra A View Post
      What would he need to explain if Chris hadn't brought this up?
      Furthermore. Has he any explaining to do? Mr Lucky thinks not.

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      • mickreed
        Sergeant
        • Aug 2013
        • 699

        #93
        Originally posted by Observer View Post
        Furthermore. Has he any explaining to do? Mr Lucky thinks not.
        Oh, well that's settled it, then.
        Mick Reed

        Whatever happened to scepticism?

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        • Observer
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Mar 2008
          • 3177

          #94
          Originally posted by Debra A View Post
          I'm saying that Dr Louhelainen has been specifically asked about this by someone involved here and he has given the impression he would be interested in discussion about it.
          Are you seriously suggesting Chris has no right to ask about it?
          Given the impression? Bit vague. is it not? The impression you gave was that no one else spotted this "mistake". That's what I was commenting on.

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          • Observer
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Mar 2008
            • 3177

            #95
            Originally posted by mickreed View Post
            Oh, well that's settled it, then.
            Not at all. There's only one man who can settle it.

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            • Debra A
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 3504

              #96
              There are people discussing the findings on the other thread who don't appear to have understood the significance of the rare mutation in the first place-calling it secondary DNA and matching however many hundreds of thousands of people.

              On trying to get a better understanding of what is claimed exactly in the book and by Dr Louhelainen, Chris noticed that the description of the mutation as 314.1c didn't make sense and has asked specifically about it. What's wrong with that?

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              • Chris
                Inactive
                • Feb 2008
                • 3840

                #97
                Originally posted by Observer View Post
                Precisely what I have been saying for some time now. Leave it to the experts to thrash out.
                Why not take your own advice?

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                • Debra A
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3504

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Observer View Post
                  Furthermore. Has he any explaining to do? Mr Lucky thinks not.
                  That's Mr Lucky's opinion.

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                  • Debra A
                    Assistant Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3504

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Observer View Post
                    Given the impression? Bit vague. is it not? The impression you gave was that no one else spotted this "mistake". That's what I was commenting on.
                    No I did not. I was being thread topic specific when I said I could wait for Jari to answer as I have been told he has been contacted about it and you stuck your beak in to say we should leave it to the experts. If that's what you want to do-go ahead, See ya!

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                    • Observer
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 3177

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Debra A View Post
                      There are people discussing the findings on the other thread who don't appear to have understood the significance of the rare mutation in the first place-calling it secondary DNA and matching however many hundreds of thousands of people.

                      On trying to get a better understanding of what is claimed exactly in the book and by Dr Louhelainen, Chris noticed that the description of the mutation as 314.1c didn't make sense and has asked specifically about it. What's wrong with that?
                      What's wrong with me suggesting that I've took on board what you have "found" and have suggested you leave it to the experts to sort out?

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                      • Observer
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 3177

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Debra A View Post
                        No I did not. I was being thread topic specific when I said I could wait for Jari to answer as I have been told he has been contacted about it and you stuck your beak in to say we should leave it to the experts. If that's what you want to do-go ahead, See ya!
                        I stuck my beak in? It's a public forum is it not? It's exactly what I want to do, and I have every right to advise you to leave it to the experts. By the way, are you aware that it against forum policy to address a poster as "you"?

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                        • Observer
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 3177

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Chris View Post
                          Why not take your own advice?
                          Explain? Which experts do you refer to?

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                          • Chris
                            Inactive
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3840

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Observer View Post
                            Explain? Which experts do you refer to?
                            Eh? You were the one who referred to them - how should I know who you meant?

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                            • Observer
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 3177

                              #104
                              Forgive me if I am mistaken. Are you suggesting that I, as an armchair detective so to speak, an "amateur", should leave all discussion in the forum to the so called "experts" in the field?

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                              • Chris
                                Inactive
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3840

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Observer View Post
                                Forgive me if I am mistaken. Are you suggesting that I, as an armchair detective so to speak, an "amateur", should leave all discussion in the forum to the so called "experts" in the field?
                                I thought that's what you were suggesting.

                                Look - the last thing I said before your intervention, was that I thought we should wait for more information from Dr Louhelainen about this. Debs and Fantasio agreed. Apparently you agree too.

                                Let's all do that, then, and not waste any more time arguing.

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