Location Location Location!

[revpetero]

I retiterate that I am new to the ripper theories.

Does anybody have any theories on the location that Catherine Eddowes body was found.

I am reading at the minute that it is the location that in 1530 a woman was murdered whilst she knelt praying at an altar.

I am aware obviously of the 358 year difference but a murder in a church would go down in local history and folk lore.

Is it possible that the body was placed on this site in reference to the previous attrocity? Could it hold any hidden theories or clues?

Just thought I'd throw an idea out and realise it may have been discussed before and apologise of going over old previously solved ground.


Ta Muchness

Peter

[Mike Covell]

Hi revpetero

With regards to the location of the body in Mitre square.
The square is situated on what was the Holy Trinity Monestery which was destroyed when Henry the 8th passed the dissolution of Monastery act which was a set of laws passed between 1536-1541!

The book "Curse on Mitre Square A.D 1530-1888" revealed the curse was in place because of the destruction of a place of worship.

There is a short review of the book on this very site here,

http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media/book_reviews/non-fiction/cursemitre.html

[revpetero]

But was there a murder of a woman there then? in 1530?

I am currently reading a book "London's Dead - A Guided tour of the capitals dead" by Ed Glinert.

It just mentions the other woman in there

[Mike Covell]

Possibly, if this guy thought there was a curse on the Square, he must have thought so for a reason.

Perhaps some of the "East Enders" can help you, Philip Hutchinson is a tour guide of the area, and does a great speech in the square, so he might know.

He is however in Iceland at the moment!

[Monty]

The position of Eddowes body is different to the alledged murder in 1530.

Eddowes was found in the southwestern corner of the square. The 1530 murder supposedly happened in the Holy Trinty Priory which was situated, in 1888, where the Kearley & Tonge Counting House and Offices were. Basically where Nightwatchman Morris was.

Brewers work was a penny dreadful published not long after Kates demise. There is nothing to support this 1530 murder.

Monty

[revpetero]

I got it from the book London's Dead. I presume that the author of this book has taken it from Brewers comic

[Mike Covell]

There we go, thanks for clearing that up Monty.

There was a guest on the podcast talking about Eddowes, recently I should have asked him!

[Monty]

Guys,

I may have misled.

If my memeory is correct, some the ruins of the priory were in Peacres back garden. I think they still stand today, emcompassed within the Office building.

Jake and Rob are the guys we need.

Mike,

I havent heard him but Ive been told he knows nada !

Monty

[Suzi]

Hi Mont

I remember on the second London Job Philip taking pictures of that outer wall through the office windows...I've got pictures of him taking them..he's bound to have caught something on those shots although I recall the glass being slightly tinted and visibility poor.

Suzi x

[Jenni Shelden]

Suz,

im scared as i read that as shorts,

anywya - id think Rob, Jake or Philip will know

maybe it is in Philip and Robs book but im at work so i cant check

[Septic Blue]

I may have misled.

Monty,

Leicester City have misled you; but you have not misled the Casebook !!!


1873 Large Scale OS

"Site of
Priory
of the
Holy Trinity"


Mitre Square, St. James, City of London
from Mitre Street, October 2007

Note Plaque in Center of Image


Zoom

Jake and Rob are the guys we need.

Neither one of those two would know the site of a priory, if it bit him in the aft end !!!


Colin

[Monty]

Hi Mont

I remember on the second London Job Philip taking pictures of that outer wall through the office windows...I've got pictures of him taking them..he's bound to have caught something on those shots although I recall the glass being slightly tinted and visibility poor.

Suzi x

Hey Suz,

I know it can be seen.

Jake has a pic somewhere showing these ruins in an oil painting just prior to the Pearces home going up. He also has a map showing it, I think I got it somewhere.

I shall look see.

Oh for the bearded Finish Dude and handsome domed cranium one.

Monty

[Monty]

Colin,

Our posts crossed.

Excellent, many thanks.

Monty

[Mike Covell]

Colin, that middle picture showing the cobblestones is fantastic, I took one of the square from what was Church Passage, but when I checked it on the computer, I must have been shaking because its all very blurred!

[Celesta]

But was there a murder of a woman there then? in 1530?

I am currently reading a book "London's Dead - A Guided tour of the capitals dead" by Ed Glinert.

It just mentions the other woman in there

Hi Rev,

I've been reading The East End Chronicles by the same author, and he refers to a murder in the square in that book also. There was apparently a murdering monk. I'll double check it, if you want and let you know.

Celesta