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  • #46
    Originally posted by Greenway View Post

    It's not a good comparison. The larger wound on Nichols's neck would take considerable force IMO - I'm not a doctor, pathologist or butcher though so would be interested to hear other opinions.
    A role of beef is just muscle right, the human neck is mostly muscle except the windpipe itself, which is thin.
    So what is the resistance to the blade that you assume requires considerable force?
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • #47
      Did a bit of kangaroo shooting in my younger days and have worked in an abattoir.

      Wickerman knows what he is on about,as usual.

      Trevor has no bloody idea,as usual.

      Please continue .....
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Greenway View Post

        In a number of the cases it would be too dark to do anything by sight IMO - unless he had an assistant carrying a lantern, which I don't believe to be the case.
        How do you account for the cholesterol removal around Eddowes eyes?
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Wickerman View Post

          A role of beef is just muscle right, the human neck is mostly muscle except the windpipe itself, which is thin.
          So what is the resistance to the blade that you assume requires considerable force?
          There is no comparison between a cooked role of beef and a human neck. There are lots of tendons and cartilage in the neck as well as muscle. Cooking breaks down muscle fibre making it easier to cut.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by DJA View Post
            Did a bit of kangaroo shooting in my younger days and have worked in an abattoir.

            Wickerman knows what he is on about,as usual.

            Trevor has no bloody idea,as usual.
            then that makes two of us !!!!!!!!!!!!!

            www.trevormarriott.co.uk

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            • #51
              Originally posted by DJA View Post
              Did a bit of kangaroo shooting in my younger days and have worked in an abattoir.
              Explains a lot.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Harry D View Post

                Explains a lot.
                We were looking at going professional with a mobile refrigeration unit and conducted a business plan.

                This knife is similar to what I used at night when we did most of our shooting.
                5" handle,7" blade,Bowie knife for safety.
                Smidge larger and thicker than the Liston knife Sutton probably used.
                We cut their throats,etc (and hung them for a while).Similar to Eddowes.


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                • #53
                  Also worked with Jim Drysdale,a Criminologist,who Scotland Yard managed to entice over to help them out.

                  Not shooting roos but
                  Last edited by DJA; 10-23-2021, 11:21 PM. Reason: Spellib
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

                    then that makes two of us !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
                    Trevor,I have an IQ within the half percentile.

                    I do not stoop to having someone wearing purple gloves using a kitchen knife pretending to have extracted a non existent kidney.

                    Used to spend a fortnight a year lecturing at Australia's premier school where I was respected for my honesty.Actually offered a teaching position there.

                    We are nothing alike.

                    Although in my 70s,I am still handsome
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by DJA View Post

                      Although in my 70s,I am still handsome
                      Another intelligent, handsome Aussie in his seventies. There are not many of us perfect blokes left Dave.

                      Cheers, George
                      “Contrariwise,” continued Tweedledee, “if it was so, it might be, and if it were so, it would be but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s logic.”

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Greenway View Post

                        There is no comparison between a cooked role of beef and a human neck.
                        The human neck tastes more like pork.
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                        • #57
                          That reminds me of The Cannibal Restaurant's Menu.

                          Missionary 3d

                          Great White Hunter 6d

                          Hippy 2/-

                          When asked why Hippy was so expensive the owner replied "Have you ever tried to clean a Hippy?"
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by DJA View Post

                            Trevor,I have an IQ within the half percentile.

                            I do not stoop to having someone wearing purple gloves using a kitchen knife pretending to have extracted a non existent kidney.

                            Used to spend a fortnight a year lecturing at Australia's premier school where I was respected for my honesty.Actually offered a teaching position there.

                            We are nothing alike.

                            Although in my 70s,I am still handsome
                            I think this is what you are sarcastically referring to

                            For the benefit of you and others this was part of a controlled experiment in a mortuary performed by Dr Biggs a forensic pathologist

                            Part of the experiment was to prove or disprove the killer removing the organs from Eddowes. The experiment highlighted among others the following points

                            The killer would have had great difficulty in

                            1. Trying to locate, take hold of, and remove organs from a blood filled abdomen in almost total darkness
                            2. The degree of difficulty in working inside a blood filled abdomen with a long bladed knife


                            The results are in my opinion conclusive, the killer could not have removed the organs from Eddowes based on this controlled experiment and other additional factors in the time scale referred to.

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                            • #59
                              Nope.

                              The three photos I refer to are different.

                              Where did Dr Biggie get his cadaver from?
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by DJA View Post
                                Nope.

                                The three photos I refer to are different.

                                Where did Dr Biggie get his cadaver from?
                                He won it in a raffle

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