Eddowes Pawn Ticket/Finances (moved from another thread)

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  • Wickerman
    Commissioner
    • Oct 2008
    • 14900

    #61
    Originally posted by curious View Post
    I take it "claimed" is the important word here.

    Is there a record of him appearing anywhere barefoot?

    My missus pawned the boots, and I stood outside the shop with bare feet.
    Daily News, 5 Oct. 1888.

    Regards, Jon S.
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #62
      day/night

      Hello Jon. Thanks. Yes, that's the one. Too bad he could not recall whether it was day (Saturday) or night (Friday).

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Wickerman
        Commissioner
        • Oct 2008
        • 14900

        #63
        Hi Lynn.
        Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
        Hello Jon. Thanks. Yes, that's the one. Too bad he could not recall whether it was day (Saturday) or night (Friday).

        Cheers.
        LC
        Hey, when you live without a watch knowing the exact time is always a chore, and if it was anywhere near midnight when his boots were pawned then whether it was late Friday night or early Saturday morning is superfluous to him.

        Wasn't that ticket dated 28th? - so Friday.

        Regards, Jon S.
        Regards, Jon S.

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #64
          Friday

          Hello Jon. Thanks. I will agree with THIS--whoever owned the boots, they were DEFINITELY pawned on Friday.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • Bridewell
            Commissioner
            • Apr 2011
            • 4039

            #65
            Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
            My missus pawned the boots, and I stood outside the shop with bare feet.
            Daily News, 5 Oct. 1888.

            Regards, Jon S.
            I bet he was thrilled to bits with that arrangement!
            I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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            • lynn cates
              Commisioner
              • Aug 2009
              • 13841

              #66
              go to work

              Hello Colin. Indeed. One wonders how he managed to work the next day?

              Cheers.
              LC

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              • Wickerman
                Commissioner
                • Oct 2008
                • 14900

                #67
                Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
                I bet he was thrilled to bits with that arrangement!
                Easy to see who was boss at that house....
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • Paddy
                  Sergeant
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 842

                  #68
                  Coming back from hopping.

                  Hi all,
                  Would anybody have any thoughts on Kellys statement of them "Hoofing" it back from hopping?

                  Pat................
                  Last edited by Paddy; 01-18-2013, 03:22 AM. Reason: deviation from question

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                  • Wickerman
                    Commissioner
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 14900

                    #69
                    Hoofing=walking
                    Hopping=picking hops in Kent
                    Regards, Jon S.

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                    • Jon Guy
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3156

                      #70
                      Hi Lynn

                      Finally found where I got the seed of an idea that John Kelly`s missus pre-Eddowes was called Mary Ann.

                      This is a link to post 21 by Wolf:

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                      • lynn cates
                        Commisioner
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13841

                        #71
                        coming back

                        Hello Paddy. To walk that far seems common. My difficulty lies in the fact that most Londoners were coming back 2-3 weeks earlier.

                        John, in his "Echo" interview, seems to say as much.

                        Cheers.
                        LC

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                        • lynn cates
                          Commisioner
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13841

                          #72
                          helpful

                          Hello Jon. Thanks. That helps.

                          Wonder how much is known about her?

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • Jon Guy
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3156

                            #73
                            Hi Lynn

                            I had a quick scan on Ancestry to see if I can see a Mary Ann Kelly dying in Whitechapel but there was nothing of note, only one in Bethnal Green in the early 1880`s.

                            I`ll have to get hold of that edition of Ripperana and Mark King`s findings.

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                            • Debra A
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3504

                              #74
                              Hi Jon, free BMD list Mary Ann Kelly's death in their index, but like you, I couldn't see it on Ancestry either.

                              Deaths Jun 1888

                              KELLY Mary Ann 42 Whitechapel 1c 173

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                              • Jon Guy
                                Assistant Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3156

                                #75
                                Excellent. many thanks Debs!! I`ll bookmark that site, cheers :-)

                                In the 1881 Census there is a John and Mary Ann Kelly living at 3 Little Paternoster Row. The age is correct for John but three years difference for Mary Ann. She is a charwoman and he`s a dock labourer (although i`m sure he was working for Lander the fruiterer since 1878). Both born in Whitechapel. This is the closest I can find for the couple. What do you think?

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