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  • Simon Wood
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 5552

    #46
    Hi Lynn,

    PC Robinson told the inquest that the woman arrested in Aldgate "smelt very strongly of drink."

    Regards,

    Simon
    Last edited by Simon Wood; 08-22-2012, 09:07 PM. Reason: spolling mistook
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #47
      right

      Hello Simon. That's right. I think it was reiterated a time or two.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Simon Wood
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 5552

        #48
        Hi Lynn,

        The woman brought into Bishopsgate police station was described by Sergeant Byfield as "Very drunk. She was brought in supported by two constables and placed in a cell."

        But I don't recall the woman found murdered in Mitre Square ever being described as smelling strongly of drink.

        Regards,

        Simon
        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #49
          no checking

          Hello Simon. Thanks.

          Indeed. But they were making an identity between the two. I doubt they checked post mortem as with Liz.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • GregBaron
            Sergeant
            • Sep 2008
            • 826

            #50
            A headache remaining...

            Five hours passed between drunk and murdered gentlemen. I don't have the science in front of me but alcohol is processed through the body rather quickly.

            She was also a very small woman who probably didn't require a gallon of gin to get loopy....

            At 1 a.m. I would expect her to be hung over and feeling awful but no longer drunk. Again, I'm no expert but rumor has it that I've had a few over-served occasions in my own time...

            I also wouldn't expect a whiff of alcohol to be necessarily worth mentioning under the circumstances....

            Greg

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            • Simon Wood
              Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 5552

              #51
              Hi Lynn,

              Sorry to be dim.

              You doubt they checked "what" post mortem as with Liz?

              Regards,

              Simon
              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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              • lynn cates
                Commisioner
                • Aug 2009
                • 13841

                #52
                How much?

                Hello Greg. Thanks. Which brings up the question, how many drinks WOULD it take? I am guessing 3-4 large glasses of gin.

                What do you think?

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • lynn cates
                  Commisioner
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 13841

                  #53
                  tummy

                  Hello Simon. Thanks.

                  Sorry to be unclear. I mean Liz had her stomach examined for alcohol. Not sure whether Kate's was.

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • Simon Wood
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5552

                    #54
                    Hi Lynn,

                    Mr. William Sedgwick Saunders, medical officer of health for the City, said at the inquest: "I received the stomach of the deceased from Dr. Gordon Brown, carefully sealed, and I made an analysis of the contents, which had not been interfered with in any way. I looked more particularly for poisons of the narcotic class, but with negative results, there being not the faintest trace of any of those or any other poisons."

                    I believe alcohol is classed as a narcotic poison.

                    Regards,

                    Simon
                    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                    • lynn cates
                      Commisioner
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13841

                      #55
                      overlooked

                      Hello Simon. Thanks. I am suggesting that alcohol was overlooked.

                      (Could be way out here.)

                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • Simon Wood
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5552

                        #56
                        Hi Lynn,

                        Don't worry. I'm out there with you on the same limb.

                        But why should alcohol have been overlooked?

                        Surely alcohol should have been one of the clinchers in identifying the woman arrested in Aldgate as the woman found dead in Mitre Square.

                        Regards,

                        Simon
                        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                        • robert newell
                          Cadet
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 12

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                          Hi Phil,

                          OK, I'll bite.

                          What's the significance of 187?

                          Regards,

                          Simon
                          Hi Simon.. It's not me you asked..but 187 is a police code...for murder. I think.

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                          • Simon Wood
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5552

                            #58
                            Hi Robert,

                            Thank you. I didn't know that.

                            It also happens to be the number of the bus I used to catch for school.

                            I hope Phil doesn't leave us in suspense for too long.

                            Regards,

                            Simon
                            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                            • Phil Carter
                              Commissioner
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 4270

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                              Hi Robert,

                              Thank you. I didn't know that.

                              It also happens to be the number of the bus I used to catch for school.

                              I hope Phil doesn't leave us in suspense for too long.

                              Regards,

                              Simon
                              Hello Simon,

                              murder on the bus? Haha

                              best wishes

                              Phil

                              Nothing to do with either btw
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                              Justice for the 96 = achieved
                              Accountability? ....

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                              • Simon Wood
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 5552

                                #60
                                Hi Phil,

                                Oh bugger! Now it's 188.

                                This is beginning to resemble a really cheapo serial killer movie.

                                Regards,

                                Simon
                                Last edited by Simon Wood; 08-22-2012, 11:12 PM. Reason: spolling mistook
                                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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