John's Echo Interview

[Simon Wood]

Hi Lynn,

The woman brought into Bishopsgate police station was described by Sergeant Byfield as "Very drunk. She was brought in supported by two constables and placed in a cell."

But I don't recall the woman found murdered in Mitre Square ever being described as smelling strongly of drink.

Regards,

Simon

[lynn cates]

right

Hello Simon. That's right. I think it was reiterated a time or two.

Cheers.
LC

[Simon Wood]

Hi Lynn,

PC Robinson told the inquest that the woman arrested in Aldgate "smelt very strongly of drink."

Regards,

Simon

[lynn cates]

oversight?

Hello Simon. Thanks.

Could that be an oversight? I recall the dictum--much bandied about at inquest--"she smelled strongly of drink."

Cheers.
LC

[Simon Wood]

Hi Lynn,

No mention at all; not the merest whiff of demon drink, which is surprising seeing as Eddowes must have been fairly three sheets to the wind when allegedly arrested in Aldgate at 8.30pm.

Regards,

Simon

[lynn cates]

Liz?

Hello Simon, Phil. I thought it was Liz where no malted liquor was found in her stomach?

Cheers.
LC

[Simon Wood]

Hi Phil,

OK, I'll bite.

What's the significance of 187?

Regards,

Simon

[Phil Carter]

Hi All,

Interesting that no traces of alcohol were reported in Eddowes' body.

Regards,

Simon

Hello Simon,

Yes, isn't it.

best wishes

Phil

[lynn cates]

Q & A

Hello Jon. Thanks. The questions must always precede the answers.

Mike and Phil are good friends. I am pleased that you include me.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Not speculation or possible scenarios or we`ll end up as insanus as Perry Mason or Phil Martyr... you`re in a different league to them.

Lynn, when I you`re in a different league to them, I meant you have brought stuff to the table (and not that you`re like them!)

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

Interesting that no traces of alcohol were reported in Eddowes' body.

Regards,

Simon

[Jon Guy]

Hi Lynn

Well, it's evidence that SOMEONE had money. But why Kate? Whence the dinero?

That`s as close as we`ll get to knowing, mate. Frustrating, I know ... but we need answers not questions. It`s fruitless pointing at possible scenarios and holes in newspaper reports, we can all see them but we need to bring the answers to the table not questions.

Indeed. And that is PRECISELY what I'm on about..

Exactly, any answers please ? Not speculation or possible scenarios or we`ll end up as insanus as Perry Mason or Phil Martyr... you`re in a different league to them.

[lynn cates]

dishonest stuff?

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"Aren`t you constantly asking how she got pissed. That could be evidence that she obtained money?"

Well, it's evidence that SOMEONE had money. But why Kate? Whence the dinero?

"We don`t know what dishonest day to day stuff they got on with just to survive."

Indeed. And that is PRECISELY what I'm on about.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Hi Lynn

Do we know that she obtained money at all? I see no evidence for that.

Aren`t you constantly asking how she got pissed. That could be evidence that she obtained money?

Apparent? Well, all that seems apparent to me is that John wished that the police/inquest not know the truth.

keep reminding yourself, Lynn, that these are common lodging house dwellers living on the edge. We don`t know what dishonest day to day stuff they got on with just to survive.

[lynn cates]

truth

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"So it seems Kate obtained her money by "other means" . . ."

Do we know that she obtained money at all? I see no evidence for that.

" . . . and she told John her daughter had given it to her."

When did she do this? Apparently neither John nor Kate knew where she lived.

"Apparently then, Kate did not wish John to know the truth."

Apparent? Well, all that seems apparent to me is that John wished that the police/inquest not know the truth.

Cheers.
LC