Hi John,
Is that a Tumblety quote?
Regards,
Simon
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Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View PostFar to much importance placed on newspaper articles in Ripperology
Far to many people to ready to accept what is written is the truth !
I guess newspaper articles and writings and rambings of ageing police officers go hand in glove. Simple fact is you cannot safely rely on anyone or anyhting.
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Hi Phil,
Surely Eddowes would have had to pay the pawnbroker 9d [plus any interest] in order to redeem the shirt.
Regards,
Simon
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Hello Simon,
I read it as she (Kate) got 9d pawning it (Burrell's shirt)
best wishes
Phil
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Hi Lynn,
" . . . the woman [Burrell] made Kate take a pawnticket she had for a flannel shirt that had been 'popped' at Jones's, in Church Street. It was only for ninepence, but Kate took it, and we got the money . . ."
Is Kelly saying that Burrell gave them the pawn ticket plus ninepence with which to redeem the shirt?
Regards,
Simon
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Originally posted by Simon Wood View PostHi Lynn,
Stories like Kelly's give crap a bad name.
Regards,
Simon
Far to many people to ready to accept what is written is the truth !
I guess newspaper articles and writings and rambings of ageing police officers go hand in glove. Simple fact is you cannot safely rely on anyone or anyhting.
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello Simon. Thanks. Which one? (heh-heh)
Cheers.
LC
Yup. Both.
The question we can now ask, is WHY did he do it?
I mean, it's not as if he would feel that he would be suspected of murder, is it? Look at his alibi..... oh... yes... perhaps not.
best wishes
Phil
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take your pick
Hello Simon. Thanks. Which one? (heh-heh)
Cheers.
LC
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Hi Lynn,
Stories like Kelly's give crap a bad name.
Regards,
Simon
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story
Hello Phil. Thanks. Yes, I believe that your times are correct.
I suppose what troubles me most about John's inquest story is that Kate was to be back by 4.00. His story is that he had discovered she had been incarcerated for a drop of drink. That was at 8.30. But if he were concerned, why wait over 4 hours?
He further claimed that he expected her out Sunday morning. So why wait a few more days?
Cheers.
LC
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Hello Lynn,
Well, we know that John Kelly told a story to the police and at the inquest that doesn't match up. I am far from surprised to see another large, detailed piece quoting the man directly being in contrast to the inquest story.
What worries me in all of this, is the possibility that John Kellly is mixing and matching after this report in the Echo.. and what is more is the date of the piece..3rd October. What day did he come forward to present himself to the police wondering if Kate was missing? Am I also correct he did this after reading about the victim in the papers, or am I mistaken?
Because, the place he was staying was raided by the police, ok, inspected/visited, within an hour or so of Kate's death.
For me, this newspaper report is quite disturbing for the veracity of John Kelly, coming on top of the story he fed the inquest later. Don't like this at all. Makes the cynic in me suspicious.
Agree with you both re the reference to "Jack" for the name "John".
best wishes
Phil
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coincidence
Hello Richard. Thanks.
Yes, an interesting coincidence.
Cheers.
LC
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Hi Lynn,
That would be the most obvious , its strange that just a few hours later she would fall prey to a monster that would be eternally called 'Jack'
Regards Richard.
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Jack
Hello Richard. Thanks. I wonder if "Jack" was a reference to John Kelly who was known as "Jack"?
Cheers.
LC
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