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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Listen and learn?

    No, no, no, old age confuses you Trevor.

    I listen to you and laugh my friend.

    Monty
    Well smile in the face of adversity then

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  • Monty
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    Listen and learn?

    No, no, no, old age confuses you Trevor.

    I listen to you and laugh my friend.

    Monty

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    No **** Sherlock.

    Monty
    At last you have recognised my attributes now perhaps you wil listen and learn

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by robhouse View Post
    Yes, that is correct. It is one scenario anyway. The other generally accepted idea is that he used the rag to wipe off his hands and knife, which he also could have done at the crime scene.
    Hi Rob
    Thanks for clarifying. Totally possible. But IMHO I think if he wanted to wipe hands/organs/knife he would have just done it at the crime scene and skeedadled. But then again of course I tend to think he took the apron to help make a statement (the GSG).

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  • robhouse
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    That is a laugh. You truly are a genius investigator.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    But that would not apply if the acts which are attributed to him were in fact not his doing
    No **** Sherlock.

    Monty

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by robhouse View Post
    What has Abby answered? You believe the apron was used as a maxipad, correct?
    To be fair Rob that possiibilty is much more plausible than the one you have suggested.

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  • robhouse
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    Abby has already answered it I am going to go back and sit in a darkened room this all to much for this mere mortal to take.
    What has Abby answered? You believe the apron was used as a maxipad, correct?

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  • robhouse
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    But he would have wasted time futzing around cutting off a piece apron at the crime scene only to later put the organs in his pocket and throw away the apron anyway?
    Yes, that is correct. It is one scenario anyway. The other generally accepted idea is that he used the rag to wipe off his hands and knife, which he also could have done at the crime scene.

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  • Trevor Marriott
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    Originally posted by robhouse View Post
    Yeah why would I take offense to that? Do you care to clarify? It seems fairly straightforward to me.
    Abby has already answered it I am going to go back and sit in a darkened room this all to much for this mere mortal to take.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by robhouse View Post
    Because he would have wanted to get away from the murder site immediately and not waste any time futzing around with wiping down bloody organs at the crime scene. I would have thought that was obvious.
    But he would have wasted time futzing around cutting off a piece apron at the crime scene only to later put the organs in his pocket and throw away the apron anyway?

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  • robhouse
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    Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
    Rob

    Have you lost the plot completley...

    I hope you dont take offence but i have read and heard some twatty statements on here but that beats them all
    Yeah why would I take offense to that? Do you care to clarify? It seems fairly straightforward to me.

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  • robhouse
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    Because he would have wanted to get away from the murder site immediately and not waste any time futzing around with wiping down bloody organs at the crime scene. I would have thought that was obvious.

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  • mariab
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    I am very comfortable with the apron-qua-graffito-marker solution. {...} Distance? OK, IF you wish to cast a shadow on someone at the building.
    Lynn, I'm sure you know that a relatively prominent IWEC member is documented to have resided in the Wentworth Dwellings.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by robhouse View Post
    The killer left with most of the womb, and one kidney... quite possibly because he was a cannibal. It seems to me likely that he carried the organs in the apron. Then when he was a safe distance away, he stopped at Goulston Street to wipe the blood off of the organs before putting them in his pocket, and discarding the rag.



    For starters I think you are presuming a bit too much that the killer was logical. Second, I believe that after committing this type of crime, the killer's main instinct would be to get to someplace where he felt safe, ie. home. If the killer actually lived in Whitechapel )or the general area of the murders), it would truly be illogical to do what you suggest... ie to walk west into the City of London. He would be walking away from his home base, and would have to wander the streets. You are also presuming that the killer would have been stopped. Well, he obviously got away from the scene before the Police arrived there, so he had several minutes on them. I think it would have been pretty easy to dissolve into anonymity in the backstreets of Spitalfields, especially as he obviously knew the area. The further he got away from Mitre Square, the likelihood of being stopped by the police would diminish.
    Hi Rob
    The killer left with most of the womb, and one kidney... quite possibly because he was a cannibal. It seems to me likely that he carried the organs in the apron. Then when he was a safe distance away, he stopped at Goulston Street to wipe the blood off of the organs before putting them in his pocket, and discarding the rag.

    He may well have been a cannibal-but why carry the organs in the apron only to wipe them off later and put in his pocket? He could have just done that at the murder scene?

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