Eddowes Photograph

[j.r-ahde]

Hello David!

Well, a thought came to my mind;

Could it be a lid on the coffin?!

Here's a presentation of my idea!

All the best
Jukka

[DVV]

Hi Monty,

precisely around that area, from her shoulder to the "tatoo/writing", isn't there a problem ?
Somehow as if her arm and the coffin were "superposed"...?
How can we see "so much" of her arm, whereas the coffin is quite deep ?

Amitiés,
David

[Monty]

Hi Phil,

Without wanting to urinate on your parade, believe me I dont, however I feel there is a need to point out your cropped image above misleads in my most humblest of opinions.

To me the 'tattoo' continues off her forearm and over to the shell, indicating either an illiusion or someone has written on the photo/indented the photo at some stage.

Respectfully
Monty

[Phil Carter]

Hello Jukka,

Then do please explain the "tattoo"... I didn't put it on her arm. IT ISN'T a tattoo of "TC", "Conway", or "Kelly." There are huge doubts over this photo. And no, the cuts up the body are NOT out of focus either....how can they be out of focus but the body NOT be? I only ask...

best wishes

Phil

[j.r-ahde]

Hello Tom!

It's not "almost" certainly Eddowes, it is Eddowes. The cut is the same, the wounds to the face are the same, the mutilation is the same, the cut throat. I couldn't care less if she was in a spaceship when the pic was taken, it's still Eddowes.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

You are probably not the first one to suggest an alien or aliens to be Jack the Ripper!

But no doubt it, the photo is CE!

All the best
Jukka

[Phil Carter]

Hello all,

As well as the "tattoo", take a look at what is under "Eddowes" chin.. again, you may have to enhance it to see it clearer. All I have done is shade and colour the picture to try to enhance it.

I may well be mistaken, but a row of pearly white teeth isn't meant to be there I'm sure...This is the third reason why I have huge question marks about this photograph... (the first being on the thread "Who is this person?")


And even if they are not teeth.. maybe someone could explain what a lovely white row of something is doing under her chin? It isn't a cut or a scar, nor is it a trick of the light. It isn't a fault with the photographic plate either.

Especially as it looks seemingly like the mouth has been painted over..



best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

the tattoo enhanced

Hello all,

Here is the tattoo .. you may have to enhance it to 200%

All I have done is reverse it, and colour the background, with darker shading to try to enhance the letters.

What do YOU think it says?...

(A hint... it isn't TC, Conway, Kelly...)

best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

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Hello Stewart, all,

Having studied this photograph at great length, there are discrepancies I would like to discuss. First of all, the "tattoo" on her right arm.

It certainly does not say "T.C." The writing appears to be reversed and inverted. Neither does it say "Conway" nor "Kelly" nor "Eddowes". Thoughts anyone?

best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

Stephen,

Different photo..

The one of "Eddowes" in the "shell" is the one I refer to

best wishes

Phil

[Stephen Thomas]

Having studied this photograph at great length, there are discrepancies I would like to discuss. First of all, the "tattoo" on her right arm.

It certainly does not say "T.C." The writing appears to be reversed and inverted. Neither does it say "Conway" nor "Kelly" nor "Eddowes". Thoughts anyone?

Hi Phil

It seems to say T something.

[Addy]

Hi All,

My favourite "Eddowes photograph" is the Bob Marley version. Have you seen the width of those shoulders?

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Regards,

Simon

Hi Simon,

Don't you think you lack respect in putting it this way?

Greetings,

Addy

[looby64]

To my knowledge, cameras of this era could not take a picture at an angle i.e pointing downwards. I came across this little oddity while doing research on Jesse James, I was curious as to why he was pictured propped up in his coffin (as were many slain outlaws from that period) so I spoke to a friend who specializes in sepia photography, and that's what she told me.

Thanks Sox, it looks so weird taken like that doesn't it, but your reply would explain it, thanks.
Looby

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

My favourite "Eddowes photograph" is the Bob Marley version. Have you seen the width of those shoulders?



Regards,

Simon

[ghoulstonstreet]

Autopsy stitch?

In looking at the Eddowes photo from your link I am reminded again that I've always assumed that the vertical stitch going strainght up her body from abdomen to neck is a stitched-up autopsy cut. Do you think that's right?

[DVV]

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Eddowes from Vacher l'Eventreur c/o Robert Mc Laughlin



Hi Suzi,

I have Lacassagne's book and Eddowes picture (whose caption reads "the last victim of JtR" btw) is a bit different.
No "stain" on the right arm, and apart from the head, the whole body, which is visible down to the knees, looks like a sketch.

Amitiés,
David