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  • mklhawley
    Chief Inspector
    • Nov 2009
    • 1904

    #1

    New Pic of Tumblety

    ...well, at least it's the first time I've seen it. Add put it next to the photo on the front cover of T. Riordan's book. Notice the mustache is not too prominent at the time of this drawing.

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    Sincerely,

    Mike
    The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
    http://www.michaelLhawley.com
  • mklhawley
    Chief Inspector
    • Nov 2009
    • 1904

    #2
    Excuse the typo. Omit "Add" and add "I".

    I found this in an article from the Daily Argus News, 26 Feb 1889.
    The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
    http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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    • Bailey
      Detective
      • Jul 2008
      • 290

      #3
      Nice Tho you may get in a spot of bother for publishing the photo without an ok from Mr Riordan... Since I hadn't seen it yet, I'm pleased tho.

      B.
      Bailey
      Wellington, New Zealand
      hoodoo@xtra.co.nz
      www.flickr.com/photos/eclipsephotographic/

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      • mklhawley
        Chief Inspector
        • Nov 2009
        • 1904

        #4
        There is a nice photo of the front cover of his book on another thread, so I merely copied that one.
        The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
        http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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        • mklhawley
          Chief Inspector
          • Nov 2009
          • 1904

          #5
          I've just been told that Chris Scott found this picture about five years ago. Well Chris, I'm only five years behind, so I'm catching up!

          Question: Is the relatively small mustache (at least for Tumblety) and accurate representation at the time the artist drew it, or did the artist exagerate how small it really was?

          Sincerely,

          Mike
          The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
          http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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          • Steven Russell
            Sergeant
            • Mar 2010
            • 650

            #6
            Mike - my eyes (or brain) might be playing tricks on me but that moustache looks absolutely unique. It seems to have both a droopy "Zapata" element and some seriously well waxed horizontal "handlebars". Where is the sketch from by the way?

            Regards,

            Steve.

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            • mklhawley
              Chief Inspector
              • Nov 2009
              • 1904

              #7
              Originally posted by Steven Russell View Post
              Mike - my eyes (or brain) might be playing tricks on me but that moustache looks absolutely unique. It seems to have both a droopy "Zapata" element and some seriously well waxed horizontal "handlebars". Where is the sketch from by the way?

              Regards,

              Steve.
              Boy, doesn't that fit Tumblety like a glove to do both. So, maybe the below picture is correct also, where sometimes he likes the handlebars, sometimes he likes the "Zapata" and sometimes both.

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              The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
              http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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              • j.r-ahde
                Inspector
                • Feb 2008
                • 1148

                #8
                Hello you all!

                Well, in any case; too striking to be JtR!

                All the best
                Jukka
                "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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                • mklhawley
                  Chief Inspector
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1904

                  #9
                  Originally posted by j.r-ahde View Post
                  Hello you all!

                  Well, in any case; too striking to be JtR!

                  All the best
                  Jukka
                  Hi Jukka,

                  Everyone has a right to be wrong, and you certainly have that right! I'm so funny, just ask me.

                  Mike
                  The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                  http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                  • ChrisGeorge
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 1625

                    #10
                    Hello mklhawley

                    As you see this is almost the same as what you posted though the caption and appearance of the illustration you posted is somewhat different. . . .



                    This is from the Bucks County Gazette, Bristol, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., 20 December 1888 and is here in the Casebook press reports section.

                    Chris
                    Christopher T. George
                    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                    just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                    For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                    RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                    • mklhawley
                      Chief Inspector
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1904

                      #11
                      Chris,

                      How interesting. Look at the subtle differences in the pictures. I wonder if an artists redrew the drawing for their paper.

                      Mike
                      The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
                      http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                      • mklhawley
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1904

                        #12
                        Here they are together. Thanks Chris.

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                        http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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                        • ChrisGeorge
                          Chief Inspector
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 1625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
                          Chris,

                          How interesting. Look at the subtle differences in the pictures. I wonder if an artists redrew the drawing for their paper.

                          Mike
                          I would say so. The matter of artists copying from other artists back then is I think a fascinating topic in itself.

                          Chris
                          Christopher T. George
                          Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                          just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                          For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                          RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                          • sbanker31
                            Cadet
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 5

                            #14
                            I'm adding a few Cemetery pictures from Dr.Tumblety's gravesite.I live in Rochester,NY and the Cemetery is only 10 minutes away from my house.







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                            • YankeeSergeant
                              Detective
                              • May 2008
                              • 252

                              #15
                              Question

                              Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
                              ...well, at least it's the first time I've seen it. Add put it next to the photo on the front cover of T. Riordan's book. Notice the mustache is not too prominent at the time of this drawing.

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                              Sincerely,

                              Mike
                              The picture on the right (photo) Is a full dress U.S. Army officer's dress uniform from the 1870s. By the time the uniform was extant, Tumblety was in Europe so are we sure that is him? Also the gent in the photo is a bit younger than Tumblety would have been. Are we sure it is him?
                              Neil "Those who forget History are doomed to repeat it." - Santayana

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