Tumblety and Eddowes's Ring

[Jeff Leahy]

Perhaps someone could phone 'mega' comedian Vic Reeves and give him an update....

Of course if there were any missing rings, the story would feed back to the Chapman murder...but the fact is that we simply dont know if Annie was missing any rings....

Surely you cant really believe the 'kernal Sarnders' suspect theory Naterlie?

Jef L x

[Dan Norder]

It was noted at the inquest into Chapman's death that she had had rings that had been recently removed from her finger, causing an abrasion. Technically I suppose we don't know that the Ripper took them, but we know they were missing and it seems to be the most likely scenario.

[perrymason]

Hello all,

The only connection Tumblety has with Canada is that he had offices at one time or another in Toronto, Montreal, and he set up shop in Nova Scotia I believe...where he was later accused of poisoning a "patient",..he of course fled.

I have read several sources that state in his possession, when his possessions were itemized after his death,..in St Louis, there were indeed not one but two rings, both of "flash" metals, not gold, found in his waistcoat pocket. Along with a quite expensive pocket watch, cash, and other things more befitting his wealth.

And the uteri jars that were mentioned by a questionable source, were never found.

That being said, as mentioned, his Fenian connections are very interesting, the Fenian Plot to assassinate Balfour was in full swing when he was there, and there is nothing that I know of that prohibits a 6 foot man from hiring a 5'6"-5'8" man to obtain specimens for him.

Best regards all.

[Moriarty]

Hi Natalie,

Suspicion of being the Ripper was Tumblety's cover.

Hide in plain sight.

Regards,

Simon

You think he was seeking the anonymity that comes with being suspected of being the most famous serial killer of all time?

[alf]

The ring theory is unfounded, but admittedly very interesting and mysterious.
A ring would have no doubt surfaced, and the fact that one has not more or less shows that this is an untrue story. Evidence always surfaces, i am quite sure there was a description of the ring somewhere, but one would have to believe that at least someone would come forward with a forgery!

As for tumblety being a clever fellow... certainly not stupid, but regarding the ring and whether or not he would have discarded it, (if this theory is to be believed) highly unlikely a serial killer would depart with a 'trophy' when he has gone to the trouble of taking it half way across the atlantic.

or maybe it was the uteruses (*) he valued?

either way tumblety was no our ripper, did he kill someone when in London, certainly possible, but then there were probably many killers in London around the same time as Jack, but they were not Jack.