The Jack the Ripper Mystery is Finally Solved — Scientifically

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  • FISHY1118
    Assistant Commissioner
    • May 2019
    • 3731

    #496
    Originally posted by Richard Patterson View Post

    Fishy, you’ve nailed it – what Herlock keeps calling “facts” are just his interpretations dressed up as absolutes. Let’s look at them:
    • Coins – Victorian London was full of scams, farthings, and petty tricks. Multiple sources reference Thompson in contexts where these stories appear. To say it’s a “lie” just because it doesn’t appear in one sanitized biography is not honest scholarship.
    • Asylum/Hospitals – In the 19th century, the terms hospital and asylum were often interchangeable, especially when dealing with paupers, addicts, or those with breakdowns. To dismiss this linguistic and historical reality as a “lie” is a distortion of the record.
    • Rupert Street – The point isn’t whether Thompson owned property there; it’s about proximity and association. His known haunts, combined with Smith’s remarks, put him in that orbit. Pretending otherwise by demanding a street address is a strawman tactic.
    The irony is Herlock keeps insisting on “truth vs. lies” while skipping over nuance and cherry-picking. As you say, Richard has every right to interpret those same sources differently – and with at least as much legitimacy. That’s what history is: weighing competing interpretations of imperfect records.

    Herlock’s approach isn’t “facts,” it’s gatekeeping. You’re right to call it out, Fishy.
    Someone has to . Ive always maintained that we all share the same Evidence in the case, and of course we are going to interpret it somewhat differently . But dont anyone dare say their interpretation is correct and minds wrong . Its common place around here , and thats a big problem with some posters have .
    'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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    • Abby Normal
      Commissioner
      • Jun 2010
      • 11971

      #497
      id like to thank richard for starting this thread. i used to think francis thompson was viable suspect. But from the research of jerry, herlock and others i no longer do. so theres a silver lining in this after all lol.
      "Is all that we see or seem
      but a dream within a dream?"

      -Edgar Allan Poe


      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

      -Frederick G. Abberline

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      • GBinOz
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Jun 2021
        • 3181

        #498
        Originally posted by Lewis C View Post

        Hi Geroge,

        The only assumption that really needs to be made here is that the man who killed Nichols and Chapman also killed Eddowes.
        Hi Lewis,

        There is indeed a following for that opinion.

        Cheer, George
        No experience of the failure of his policy could shake his belief in its essential excellence - The March of Folly by Barbara Tuchman

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        • GBinOz
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Jun 2021
          • 3181

          #499
          Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

          Someone has to . Ive always maintained that we all share the same Evidence in the case, and of course we are going to interpret it somewhat differently . But dont anyone dare say their interpretation is correct and minds wrong . Its common place around here , and thats a big problem with some posters have .
          Well said Fishy.
          No experience of the failure of his policy could shake his belief in its essential excellence - The March of Folly by Barbara Tuchman

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          • GBinOz
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Jun 2021
            • 3181

            #500
            Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
            id like to thank richard for starting this thread. i used to think francis thompson was viable suspect. But from the research of jerry, herlock and others i no longer do. so theres a silver lining in this after all lol.
            Hi Abby,

            Were Herlock to apply his standards of research to his own suspect, how do you think that his suspect would fare? Or any other suspect? Fishy's post contains a lot of home truths.

            Cheers, George
            No experience of the failure of his policy could shake his belief in its essential excellence - The March of Folly by Barbara Tuchman

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            • FISHY1118
              Assistant Commissioner
              • May 2019
              • 3731

              #501
              Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
              id like to thank richard for starting this thread. i used to think francis thompson was viable suspect. But from the research of jerry, herlock and others i no longer do. so theres a silver lining in this after all lol.
              So basically you let the opinions of two others ''Interpretation'' of the evidence presented about Francis Thompson change your own judgement of him ? Sold out cheap enough i guess.
              'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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