Walter Sickert: Whitechapel Murderer ?

[Graham]

No the Walter Sickert theory is a crackpot theory dreamed up by a second rate crime writer largely probably to boost her own failing career.

Except that Cornwell didn't 'dream up' the Sickert Theory. It pre-dates her book by a number of years.

However, I can go with 'crackpot' and 'second rate', all the same...

G

[John Wheat]

No the Walter Sickert theory is a crackpot theory dreamed up by a second rate crime writer largely probably to boost her own failing career.

[Paddy Goose]

Yes that was sloppy work on the part of the author, Celesta.

But the part I found an outright fraud was her treatment of Abberline. She wrote a special section describing Abberline as tending his garden in retirement and never mentioning the Ripper case again. When in fact the Pall Mall interviews and Abberline's flirtation with George Chapman being suspect is well known and documented repeatedly in published secondary sources. She knew that. Her research team knew that. She outright lied, demonstrating that her book was marketed to the masses, and not a serious attempt at solving the crimes.

Paddy

[Mike Covell]

D. R.D.Stephenson - his inside knowledge.

The victims where buggered, and the writing on the wall in Mitre-square is hardly inside knowledge.

[Celesta]

If Ms Cornwell really wanted to prove Sickert was the Ripper, she would have made much more of an effort to determine where he was during the autumn of 1888, or at least at the time when some of the women were killed.

Yes, Julie, this was really sloppy on her part. I can't imagine why she thought no one would call her out on this.

[JTRSickert]

Besides the claim by Joseph Gorman, did Wally ever produce any actual offspring during any of his marriages?

[The Good Michael]

All was crap. It was contrived. There was no evidence of anything, just surmise that revolved around a circle of decadent folks that may not have even known each other in the least.

Mike

[quasar]

Hi all,

Sickert almost certainly not JtR. Something has occured to me whilst studying the case. There seems to be a list of existing suspects who were iether fascinated by JtR, or thought they were JtR.
A. Dr Cream - "I am JtR".
B. W.Bury - his chalk message.
C. F. Deeming - his Bragging that he was JtR.
D. R.D.Stephenson - his inside knowledge.
E. W. Sickert - his obbsession with Jack in his paintings.
F. Maybrick - If he did write the diary, his possible dillusion that he was.
Just because of Sickert's interest in JtR, or dellusion that he was JtR, Cornwell seems to think it's case closed. Thanks, Q.

[JTRSickert]

Which part, Mike?

The association with the Prince or Joseph claiming to be Sickert's son?

[The Good Michael]

Crap.

Mike

[JTRSickert]

Although I think the Royal Conspiracy theory to be BS, is there any truth to the claim that Sickert met or was acquainted with Prince Edward Albert Victor at all? I mean, since he knew such well-hknown people as Whistler, Degas, Oscar Wilde, and Ellen Terry, I wouldn't discard that he might've hobnobbed with royalty too.

Also, even though Joseph Gorman Sickert made up the whole story to Stephen Knight about Gull, Netley, and Sickert, is there any truth to the claim that he was Wally's illegimate son or is that just a load of crap too?

[Suzi]

Found this sketch by Sickert in the Cafe Royal book*...' The Barnacle Woman'


Interesting sketch if nothing else......... and the 'inscription ' in reversed writing is interesting too I guess- in a Leonardo sort of way- .....her hum....

* That's 'Cafe Royal- Ninety Years of Bohemia' - Guy Deghy and Keith Waterhouse 1955

[Suzi]

Highly Highly unlikely to be Mr S!!!!!

Gareth- I made the 'Bolt' remark last night when he flashed (ran) across my screen!

OK Sickert was an 'interesting ' man and to my mind a great artist- I think this back and fore to Dieppe lark may have become tied into the 'I went to France with a gentleman but didn't like it etc etc ' bit in the MJK malarky and therefore become some sort of 'fact'

Walter has maybe.....maybe still has a lot of odd things in his life and times but there again so did Whistler,Wilde, Beardsley etc etc etc....Oh and Crowley! ()

[Sam Flynn]

And I don't think anyone could be in Dieppe and Whitechapel at the same time...

Usain Bolt would give it a bloody good try!

[JTRSickert]

I heard on a previous Rippercast that Patricia Cornwell is working with keith Skinner in writing a follow up to her Sickert JTR book. Is this still going on?