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  • #16
    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    No, that’s a letter. The forgery is the diary. You know…the one that the well-to-do Maybrick wrote in someone else’s handwriting in an old photograph album/scrapbook with pages torn out…because he couldn’t afford the few pennies for a proper journal/diary or indeed any old notebook.
    What does: 'No, that's a letter' mean, Herlock?

    Confused as ever,

    Caz
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    Ah, I just realised you were quoting something that was presumably deleted?
    Last edited by caz; 02-25-2025, 04:44 PM.
    "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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    • #17
      That was a letter about Florrie having a miscarriage.

      So we have new and "relevant" information discovered by an author that the author of the diary didn't know or James Maybrick would have known and would have mentioned.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by erobitha View Post
        Serial killers are not rational people. This may come as a shock to some.

        It has been proven in numerous studies that narcissistic serial killers use whatever stories or angles they think will garner the most sympathy from those they wish to influence or delude. It has often been an effective tactic to convince psychologists and parole boards that if it weren't for "insert bad thing happening to me", I would not have killed any of those people. They use this technique on themselves the most. To convince themselves of false realities.

        In actual reality, they are succumbing to an urge that overwhelms them and for which they enjoy. Catering to their deep-seated urges and desires. Their addictions.

        James Maybrick had numerous addictions. That is fact.
        My thoughts exactly, ero.

        Assuming Chris has yet to identify the diary author, may I humbly suggest that he would be looking for someone who knows a fair bit about the psychology of self-destructive self-deceivers with addictive personalities. Anne Graham may have had some knowledge of this, but would surely have found the subject matter too unbearably close to home for comfort - namely her home life with her husband.

        Such an idea could have proved interesting, for someone who could maintain a decent and professional distance, and did not have to cope on a daily basis with whatever troubles were brought to her own door, but it still feels rather a long way from 'fun for today'. I think I'd have sooner pulled all my own teeth out than write this 'DAiRy' for, or with, the character who was Mike Barrett. After all, Anne knew the man better in 1992 than anyone else on the planet.

        Love,

        Caz
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        Last edited by caz; 02-25-2025, 05:31 PM.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by caz View Post

          What does: 'No, that's a letter' mean, Herlock?

          Confused as ever,

          Caz
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          Ah, I just realised you were quoting something that was presumably deleted?
          Yes, indeed, Caz. Lombro mis-read Chris's post and thought the letter Chris had posted was supposed to have been authored by James Maybrick. So he first suggested it might be a forgery, then, in a further post, on the basis that it was a genuine letter by Maybrick, he said that the handwriting in it seemed to be similar to the diary handwriting. I mean, honestly! In his embarrassment, he's now removed all evidence of this through editing but, thankfully, I captured one of those two posts in a quote for posterity.​
          Regards

          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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          • #20
            Oopsey Daisy. Sorry about that. Excuse my bumbling buffoonery.

            You can quote me on that on jtrforums.

            Or cut and paste.


            Sincerely yours,

            Snipper Viewer

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

              Yes, indeed, Caz. Lombro mis-read Chris's post and thought the letter Chris had posted was supposed to have been authored by James Maybrick. So he first suggested it might be a forgery, then, in a further post, on the basis that it was a genuine letter by Maybrick, he said that the handwriting in it seemed to be similar to the diary handwriting. I mean, honestly! In his embarrassment, he's now removed all evidence of this through editing but, thankfully, I captured one of those two posts in a quote for posterity.​
              Well thank goodness we have you, Herlock, to keep us all on the straight and narrow.

              Love,

              Caz
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              "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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              • #22
                I have to be fast on the delete button before I get closed and deleted for asking a question.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Lombro2 View Post
                  I have to be fast on the delete button before I get closed and deleted for asking a question.

                  Well Lombro, in the one surviving (quoted) post out of the two you deleted, you wrote:

                  "Well, the handwriting in the letter doesn't match Maybrick's formal hand and seems to match the "forgery"."

                  I'm not seeing a question there.

                  It's difficult to know what you wrote in the other post because you decided to delete it. No-one else was deleting anything. Just you.​
                  Regards

                  Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                  “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                  • #24
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                    Hard to know what you wrote.

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                    • #25
                      On the subject of Triggers, which is the correct term, everyone knows about triggers and stressors. The Diary author knows it too. Barrett must have been ahead of his time. I guess he still is in some quarters.

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                      • #26
                        BTW

                        That’s a good example of Georgian and Victorian handwriting too. A hand practiced in the style of that time and writing smoothly with a fountain pen at the same time.

                        I’d like to see how hard it is for a modern person to forge that. With 63 pages of original and “credible” content. No problem for Mighty Mike and his superforger sidekick, Anne.

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