The Diary—Old Hoax or New?

[rjpalmer]

Has anybody bothered to check with the auction company, I know that with auctions before you can bid you have to set up an account which is set up and retained on the auction house computer system, and all transactions are kept on the persons file.

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Hi Trevor. The short answer is that Shirley Harrison, making the same error that Thom Mitchell and Caroline Brown are still making two decades later, had the auction house check the wrong dates, so the transaction was not traced if it ever existed. Shirley should have had them check the dates around March 1992, since Barrett's confession states that he went to the auction house after the Diary that he bought from Martin Earl showed up and it was too small. We know this was in March 1992, but based on the wrong date given in Barrett's affidavit, Shirley had them check dates further back instead.

Realizing Shirley's mistake, I recontacted the auction house 18 years ago (roughly) and was told the records are now pulped. I was a year or two too late.

Keith Skinner remarked on this forum many years ago that had he been in charge of the research, he would have had the auction house check their records all the way up into April 1992, but he wasn't there so this never happened. Keith clearly has a more thorough and rational mind than those now commenting on the pro-Diary side of the aisle.

Anyway, this means that all the blather about the auction house records having been competently checked and that Barrett's claim has been debunked is just that...blather. We don't know. What we do know is that small lots were often marked "miscellaneous" and that people even used bogus names at the auction, so there is no guarantee the record would have been found anyway.

RP

[erobitha]

Jesus Christ. Keep up Trevor...

Why didn’t anyone think of the auction house?

I can see now why Trevor was a detective.

Yes, Trevor they had been contacted. Their own records for that era were not computerised and relied and whatever paper files they had.

There was an auction which possibly took place on Tuesday the 31st of March 1992. This is the awesome auction that apparently Mike was able to source the final scrapbook.

Except there are no records that such a scrapbook was for sale. Was sold as part of “Misc items” (conveniently) according to some. Mike also claimed he had an auction ticket confirming it. Except no other human being has actually seen this ticket. Also, the process in which he describes the auction was not how the auctioneers themselves claimed their auctions were conducted.

A dead duck for those Barrett believers.

[caz]

Jesus Christ. Keep up Trevor...

What Owly said...

[caz]

If you think childish antics shuts down the debate, then I guess maybe it is you who needs the eye test.

On the contrary, ero, I think the last thing John wants is to shut down the debate. What on earth would he do all day, if he wasn't here, giving us the benefit of his wisdom?

Norman wisdom, that is.

Love,

Caz
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[StevenOwl]

Has anybody bothered to check with the auction company, I know that with auctions before you can bid you have to set up an account which is set up and retained on the auction house computer system, and all transactions are kept on the persons file.

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Jesus Christ. Keep up Trevor...

[caz]

I'm just trying to educate the foolish.

No, John. You are just here to disagree in a rather insulting and disagreeable fashion.

If you have finished your own education on this and every other subject under the sun, why not take all your books to the charity shop, switch off the internet and put your feet up for a nice nap?

Love,

Caz
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[Trevor Marriott]

Since you are so well-informed, John, perhaps you could 'get real' and enlighten the rest of us regarding what you have decided Mike Barrett's [double t] motivation was for trying to make a clean breast of it, between June 1994 and April 1999, but then changing the story many times, and ultimately failing to produce his auction ticket, which would have finally cleared his guilty conscience in readiness for making his peace with his Maker in 2016.

Here's a bit of friendly advice: start by teaching yourself how to spell the man's surname correctly and your credibility will increase accordingly.

You are most welcome.

Love,

Caz
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Has anybody bothered to check with the auction company, I know that with auctions before you can bid you have to set up an account which is set up and retained on the auction house computer system, and all transactions are kept on the persons file.

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[caz]

Hi Caz,

I was in Brighton on Wednesday, I could have popped in for a cup of tea and said hello to Monty.

Hi Herlock,

Sadly, that would have been a bit difficult, since we are in Sidmouth, East Devon, which is a fair old trot from Brighton - even for Monty. He draws the line at Bournemouth!

The good news is that if you are down our way in late September and fancy saying hello to Monty, you could feed him while we are away on holiday, to help save Sid Valley's mouse and bird population.

The less good news is that we are booked to go to Rhodes.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

Because Mike Barret a published author who claimed to have written the diary would be the last person who could have written the diary. Get real.

Since you are so well-informed, John, perhaps you could 'get real' and enlighten the rest of us regarding what you have decided Mike Barrett's [double t] motivation was for trying to make a clean breast of it, between June 1994 and April 1999, but then changing the story many times, and ultimately failing to produce his auction ticket, which would have finally cleared his guilty conscience in readiness for making his peace with his Maker in 2016.

Here's a bit of friendly advice: start by teaching yourself how to spell the man's surname correctly and your credibility will increase accordingly.

You are most welcome.

Love,

Caz
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[John Wheat]

Honestly, ero b, my decision to block the child's posts (the first and only time I have ever done so in nigh-on 20 years of reading the Casebook) was the best thing I have done this year (Jack-related).

I strongly recommend it to you and anyone else who is simply irritated by his infantile repetition and bleating about things unproven as if they were fact.

Ike
Resting in Peace

I'm a child? Your the one who believes all the Maybrick bullshit.

[Iconoclast]

I should stress that I assume he is a child. I'd hate to think this behaviour was stemming from a grown adult.

[Iconoclast]

Who’s a pretty boy then?

Honestly, ero b, my decision to block the child's posts (the first and only time I have ever done so in nigh-on 20 years of reading the Casebook) was the best thing I have done this year (Jack-related).

I strongly recommend it to you and anyone else who is simply irritated by his infantile repetition and bleating about things unproven as if they were fact.

Ike
Resting in Peace

[John Wheat]

Who’s a pretty boy then?

Immaturity.

[erobitha]

It's pointless trying to educate the foolish. You are a troll by the way blindly accepting all the bullshit about Maybrick.

Who’s a pretty boy then?

[John Wheat]

Who's a pretty boy then?

It's pointless trying to educate the foolish. You are a troll by the way blindly accepting all the bullshit about Maybrick.