One Incontrovertible, Unequivocal, Undeniable Fact Which Refutes the Diary

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  • Iconoclast
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    • Aug 2015
    • 4292

    #1786
    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
    The Vitriol is usually written in my opinion to put off people who for whatever reason want to promote ludicrous suspects. Which I believe is a good thing.

    Cheers John
    Goodness, we'll take that as a confession of guilt then, John?

    Why would you assume that someone's theory is 'ludicrous' and therefore you can throw vitriol all over it to shut them up?

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    • spyglass
      Sergeant
      • Nov 2009
      • 718

      #1787
      Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
      The Vitriol is usually written in my opinion to put off people who for whatever reason want to promote ludicrous suspects. Which I believe is a good thing.

      Cheers John
      Hi,
      I wouldn't consider Maybrick as ludicrous at all, as some one else once said "If you take away the Diary and the watch.....Maybrick still makes a valid suspect "

      The attitude by one individual at the time was " your all fools to persist with Maybrick because I know for a fact the Diary is a fake. I know everything about it but refuse to tell"

      Regards

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      • GUT
        Commissioner
        • Jan 2014
        • 7841

        #1788
        Originally posted by spyglass View Post
        Hi,
        I wouldn't consider Maybrick as ludicrous at all, as some one else once said "If you take away the Diary and the watch.....Maybrick still makes a valid suspect "

        The attitude by one individual at the time was " your all fools to persist with Maybrick because I know for a fact the Diary is a fake. I know everything about it but refuse to tell"

        Regards
        How does he make a valid suspect?????
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • John Wheat
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Jul 2008
          • 3417

          #1789
          Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
          Goodness, we'll take that as a confession of guilt then, John?

          Why would you assume that someone's theory is 'ludicrous' and therefore you can throw vitriol all over it to shut them up?
          I don't assume it's obvious to me when a suspect is a none starter.

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          • John Wheat
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Jul 2008
            • 3417

            #1790
            The Diary is a forgery. The watch evidence is a joke. With that in mind Mabrick is a poor suspect.

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            • Iconoclast
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              • Aug 2015
              • 4292

              #1791
              Originally posted by GUT View Post
              How does he make a valid suspect?????
              The interesting thing about the Maybrick journal is that it has raised the very strong possibility that Jack the Ripper travelled in to Whitechapel, stayed long enough to kill and get away with it, and then left again to return to his 'normal' world.

              Without the journal and the watch, Maybrick is no more valid than any other travelling-killer candidate, but that's not what Spyglass claimed. He simply said he was a valid suspect, and I think that is therefore true.

              With the journal (and the watch), he escalates to the very top of the list and until those artefacts are debunked as hoaxes once and for all time, we cannot exclude Maybrick as an extremely plausible candidate for Jack.

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              • John Wheat
                Assistant Commissioner
                • Jul 2008
                • 3417

                #1792
                Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
                Goodness, we'll take that as a confession of guilt then, John?

                Why would you assume that someone's theory is 'ludicrous' and therefore you can throw vitriol all over it to shut them up?
                No it is not a confession of guilt however I am often blunt and I call a spade a spade.

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                • Iconoclast
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                  • Aug 2015
                  • 4292

                  #1793
                  Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
                  I don't assume it's obvious to me when a suspect is a none starter.
                  Oh but you do assume.

                  You know nothing John Wheat ...

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                  • Iconoclast
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                    • Aug 2015
                    • 4292

                    #1794
                    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
                    The Diary is a forgery. The watch evidence is a joke. With that in mind Mabrick is a poor suspect.
                    At last - someone can show us the proof of the hoax, what a relief everyone!

                    Erm ... whenever you're ready, mate ...

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                    • Iconoclast
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                      • Aug 2015
                      • 4292

                      #1795
                      Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
                      No it is not a confession of guilt however I am often blunt and I call a spade a spade.
                      I'm more pneumatic drill, but we're all different, aren't we?

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                      • GUT
                        Commissioner
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 7841

                        #1796
                        Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
                        The interesting thing about the Maybrick journal is that it has raised the very strong possibility that Jack the Ripper travelled in to Whitechapel, stayed long enough to kill and get away with it, and then left again to return to his 'normal' world.

                        Without the journal and the watch, Maybrick is no more valid than any other travelling-killer candidate, but that's not what Spyglass claimed. He simply said he was a valid suspect, and I think that is therefore true.

                        With the journal (and the watch), he escalates to the very top of the list and until those artefacts are debunked as hoaxes once and for all time, we cannot exclude Maybrick as an extremely plausible candidate for Jack.
                        How is he a valid suspect without the Journal and the Watch?

                        You say he is as valid as any other travelling suspect, well please tell me one thing, not from the diary that links him in any way to the crimes.
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • Iconoclast
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                          • Aug 2015
                          • 4292

                          #1797
                          Originally posted by GUT View Post
                          How is he a valid suspect without the Journal and the Watch?

                          You say he is as valid as any other travelling suspect, well please tell me one thing, not from the diary that links him in any way to the crimes.
                          Please, GUT, what planet are you on?

                          How many of the 200+ candidates ever proposed for Jack have actually got any links to the crimes???

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                          • Iconoclast
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                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4292

                            #1798
                            Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
                            Please, GUT, what planet are you on?

                            How many of the 200+ candidates ever proposed for Jack have actually got any links to the crimes???
                            A major candidate like Druitt, or Kosminski. What links have they got to the crimes (none whatsoever that I'm aware of beyond desperate, even vain, speculation) and yet they are right up there at the top of the list.

                            In Druitt's case, his family thought he might have been the murderer. That was it!!!

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                            • Iconoclast
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                              • Aug 2015
                              • 4292

                              #1799
                              Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
                              A major candidate like Druitt, or Kosminski. What links have they got to the crimes (none whatsoever that I'm aware of beyond desperate, even vain, speculation) and yet they are right up there at the top of the list.

                              In Druitt's case, his family thought he might have been the murderer. That was it!!!
                              And on this website it is considered perfectly acceptable to propose theories around them.

                              In this context, you do need the journal and the watch, but once you have them you have a candidate who is out there in the stratosphere of likely Jacks. Out in a league of his own in terms of evidence. Find me one other Jack who has such a strong case to support any theory around them.

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                              • GUT
                                Commissioner
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 7841

                                #1800
                                Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
                                Please, GUT, what planet are you on?

                                How many of the 200+ candidates ever proposed for Jack have actually got any links to the crimes???
                                Awww so the answer is

                                "maybrick has no links to the crimes"

                                Thanks.
                                G U T

                                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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