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  • caz
    Premium Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 10616

    #1

    Acquiring a Life

    Right then, you 'orrible lot.

    Who is going to stick their neck out and give us a rundown of who the evidence actually points to, regarding who exactly did what, from the moment someone suggested Maybrick might be a good choice for a fake diary of the Whitechapel Murderer, to the last word penned in the finished abomination?

    Answers here - not on a saucy postcard.

    Then perhaps we can all do something more productive, like removing the fluff from our navel and collecting it in a jar.

    Love,

    Caz
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    "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


  • DirectorDave
    *
    • Sep 2009
    • 355

    #2
    Mike saw a picture of James Maybrick and thought "ooohhh he looks like Jack the Ripper".

    Bought a photo album.

    Wrote the text on the word processor.

    Someone else wrote the text.

    *** STROKE ***

    He pimps the diary around publication companies.

    A couple of mildly Intelligent people are convinced.

    It becomes obvious that Mike is a liar and the diary is a fake, but it's too late they are down the rabbit hole.

    The diary is kept aloof to prevent conclusive proof of it being a fake and to keep the gravy train rolling.

    It will keep going until someone realises this hoax only has one big payday left and that is to expose it as a hoax....the paper fairies down the garden moment.

    In about 100 years time, some conspiracy theorist will bring up the photo album again and perhaps it will have another sect of "true believers".

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    • Spider
      Detective
      • Dec 2014
      • 140

      #3
      You have more chance of plaiting fog than sorting out that irrelevant discussion
      ‘There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact’ Sherlock Holmes

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      • Sam Flynn
        Casebook Supporter
        • Feb 2008
        • 13333

        #4
        Originally posted by Spider View Post
        You have more chance of plaiting fog than sorting out that irrelevant discussion
        Irrelevant, perhaps, but the authorship of the diary is probably the only significant mystery we have a realistic chance of solving
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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        • Abby Normal
          Commissioner
          • Jun 2010
          • 11938

          #5
          Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
          Irrelevant, perhaps, but the authorship of the diary is probably the only significant mystery we have a realistic chance of solving
          that's not even a mystery either
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • Sam Flynn
            Casebook Supporter
            • Feb 2008
            • 13333

            #6
            Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
            that's not even a mystery either
            There's certainly a number of smoking guns but, in this instance, whoever pulled the trigger (or at least handled the ammo) might still be at large, and other physical evidence may yet turn up.
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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            • Darryl Kenyon
              Inspector
              • Nov 2014
              • 1245

              #7
              Apart from his death, Maybrick isn't a good choice. But the author of the fake Diary needed someone local ,someone who died at the right time, and someone who was well known in Victorian times, [ so as to make his life easier to investigate, instead of Joe Bloggs from London ], to concoct the document. Pity he couldn't also find someone in his Twenties or Thirties who was known to have been in Whitechapel that Autumn. Might have been more believable
              Last edited by Darryl Kenyon; 04-18-2018, 06:59 AM. Reason: Adding

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              • Darryl Kenyon
                Inspector
                • Nov 2014
                • 1245

                #8
                Well actually he didn't have to even die at the right time. Put in prison, emigrated, something like that would have done.

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                • Herlock Sholmes
                  Commissioner
                  • May 2017
                  • 22317

                  #9
                  Also, the down side of selecting Maybrick is obvious. Businessman, well travelled, moved in higher social circles attending functions/meetings, travelling abroad. His name cropping up on the minutes of a meeting or on a guest list in Liverpool on the same day as a Ripper murder and it would have immediately been game over.
                  Regards

                  Herlock Sholmes

                  ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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                  • Scott Nelson
                    Superintendent
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2428

                    #10
                    We probably have a plot involving Harry Dam, George Grossmith and Michael Maybrick.

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                    • Iconoclast
                      Commissioner
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 4178

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                      Also, the down side of selecting Maybrick is obvious. Businessman, well travelled, moved in higher social circles attending functions/meetings, travelling abroad. His name cropping up on the minutes of a meeting or on a guest list in Liverpool on the same day as a Ripper murder and it would have immediately been game over.
                      Just as well that not a single shred of evidence has ever placed Maybrick in the wrong place, then, for our hoaxer-theorists.

                      To the fair-minded, this would point in favour of Maybrick being the author of the journal, but of course you can propose anything you like on the Jack the Ripper Casebook and people will fawn over your stupid theory with awe and admiration, but if you suggest that Maybrick was your man, the clouds and the clowns open up.

                      Maybrick wrote the Maybrick journal. Real threads like Incontrovertible, and History vs. make the case irresistible.

                      Honestly, everyone, just get over yourselves.
                      Iconoclast
                      Materials: HistoryvsMaybrick – Dropbox

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                      • Sam Flynn
                        Casebook Supporter
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 13333

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post
                        Just as well that not a single shred of evidence has ever placed Maybrick in the wrong place, then, for our hoaxer-theorists.
                        There aren't many shreds that place him anywhere. Like the vast majority of people at the time, or now for that matter, his every movement was not slavishly recorded.
                        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                        • Iconoclast
                          Commissioner
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 4178

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                          There aren't many shreds that place him anywhere. Like the vast majority of people at the time, or now for that matter, his every movement was not slavishly recorded.
                          Hmmm. Then we should turn back to those threads which place him firmly in the dock.

                          See what I did there?

                          Iconoclast
                          Materials: HistoryvsMaybrick – Dropbox

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                          • GUT
                            Commissioner
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 7841

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                            Also, the down side of selecting Maybrick is obvious. Businessman, well travelled, moved in higher social circles attending functions/meetings, travelling abroad. His name cropping up on the minutes of a meeting or on a guest list in Liverpool on the same day as a Ripper murder and it would have immediately been game over.
                            But there don’t seem to be many reports with him on guest lists at any time.
                            G U T

                            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                            • Sam Flynn
                              Casebook Supporter
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 13333

                              #15
                              Originally posted by GUT View Post
                              But there don’t seem to be many reports with him on guest lists at any time.
                              I can't see any reason why there should be. Such ephemera would have been comparatively rare, and fewer would have survived.
                              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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