Acquiring A Victorian Diary

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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Yabs View Post
    I thought I would try searching for something old that could be used as a Victorian journal in this modern day of the online auction.
    Found something in approximately 2 minutes

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F352756570481
    Interesting, Yabs. I wonder if this one also has blank pages at the end? (Scrapbook II, folks - it'll make a fortune!)


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  • Yabs
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    I thought I would try searching for something old that could be used as a Victorian journal in this modern day of the online auction.
    Found something in approximately 2 minutes

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  • caz
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    Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post
    Ike-- another thing. The red diary produced by Anne G. was from 1891, not 1890, so technically it fell outside the parameters of the original advertisement in Bookdealer. I doubt that means much, other than shows the difficulty of coming up with a blank or largely blank diary from the late Victorian era.
    Hi R.J,

    Which, I suspect, is pretty much what Mike wondered about, when he first saw the 17 blank pages at the end of the Maybrick diary, following the final, and only dated entry - for 3rd May 1889. Did he want to know how likely it would be that a genuine diary from that era could survive until 9th March 1992 with so many unused pages? He certainly hinted at it when speaking to Martin Howells in September 1993 and describing how he had first seen the diary 18 months previously [taking it back to March 1992, rather than the Spring/Summer of 1991 - a slip of the tongue?]. He made an emphatic reference to the last page of the diary not being the last page of the scrapbook, as if he had found it noteworthy or puzzling at the time and therefore memorable.

    Love,

    Caz
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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    you all are right. my response to Harry was out of line and I apologize Harry. sorry. admin please feel free to strike my offending post.
    Well done, Abby.

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  • Abby Normal
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    you all are right. my response to Harry was out of line and I apologize Harry. sorry. admin please feel free to strike my offending post.

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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Yabs View Post
    Need to read the whole article for context really.
    because it sounds like it suggests one off the usual retail price of 6 pence per pound.

    keeping an open mind until I find it though
    Yes, harry, we need the name of the newspaper, please, and - even better - the article scanned in. Without the reference, we can't do anything with your research.

    Cheers,

    Ike "Very Excited But Holding My Breath" Iconoclast

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  • Yabs
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    Need to read the whole article for context really.
    because it sounds like it suggests one off the usual retail price of 6 pence per pound.

    keeping an open mind until I find it though
    Last edited by Yabs; 08-23-2019, 09:42 AM.

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  • Aelric
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    If the sultanas are being sold by the pound, how can it be a one off?

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  • harry
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    Do not worry Spider,Abby is showing her usual ignorance in matters that are past her level of understanding.
    I have indicated what the subject matter was but for those who like Abby can't differentiate between two pieces of string,here is the advert
    One off retail of sultanas at 6 pence per pound.
    That is all that should be of interest.It does as does the diary,relate to a one off instance of an event.It means that the sultanas at that price is offered only once.
    That incidentally goes further than the claim by Orsam that the use of one off in the 19th century, w as unknown.
    Now to the question of what British paper that ad was entered.I feel under no obligation to reveal the source,but I will reveal it in a private message to Graham,if he so wishes.That's not intended as a snub to other posters by the way,but I feel posters like Abby do not deserve a consideration.

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  • Graham
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    Harry, Orsam is no longer on these boards, as he has been banned by Admin. It is likely that what you posted has rattled his cage, as Ike suggests, and I for one would dearly love to see the newspaper reference to 'one off' to which you allude. Please reconsider.

    FWIW, Harry, I'm not yet convinced that Maybrick was the Ripper, but I am convinced that the Barretts had nothing whatsoever to do with the conception and production of The Diary.

    Graham

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  • Spider
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal

    maybe if you could string two coherent sentences together it might help people understand your mindless banter. maybe not.

    you have no idea who wrote the diary? Ill give you a hint harry. it wasnt you.
    Keyboard Warriors! Totally uncalled for comment. Reported.

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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by harry View Post
    I do not intend to participate in any arguments on the matter.I searched for the term to satisfy my own curiousity,after being labeled a clown.I do not believe M aybrick was jack the Ripper,and I have no idea who wrote the diary or when. The 1871 example I refer to used the term 'one off' as written here.it was to advertise the retail of a certain goods,at a once only price.A 'one off' event.There is no ambiguity in the advertisement.It does not,in my opinion,differ in meaning,from the 'one off' used in the diary.I have had clarification of that from an independent source.
    Where is this 1871 example to which you refer?

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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal

    maybe if you could string two coherent sentences together it might help people understand your mindless banter. maybe not.

    you have no idea who wrote the diary? Ill give you a hint harry. it wasnt you.
    Hi Abby,

    You should retract your last post. It is a disgrace to the Casebook and to you. Harry's post was perfectly clear to anyone with a clear mind. His post was perfectly cogent whereas yours was extraordinarily aggressive and misdirected.

    I'm serious - you need to apologise for post #1792.

    Harry, if you tell us which newspaper you saw it in, we can research it for ourselves. No-one is doubting your information, we just need to see it. In providing it, you are not participating in a debate, merely furnishing the backing for your claim. That's how research works. No one will accuse you of claiming the scrapbook was written by James Maybrick.

    Lord Orsam shouldn't have called you a 'clown', but honestly see it as a badge of honour that you got under his skin so easily.

    Cheers,

    Ike

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  • harry
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    I do not intend to participate in any arguments on the matter.I searched for the term to satisfy my own curiousity,after being labeled a clown.I do not believe M aybrick was jack the Ripper,and I have no idea who wrote the diary or when. The 1871 example I refer to used the term 'one off' as written here.it was to advertise the retail of a certain goods,at a once only price.A 'one off' event.There is no ambiguity in the advertisement.It does not,in my opinion,differ in meaning,from the 'one off' used in the diary.I have had clarification of that from an independent source.

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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Graham View Post
    Don't mention his name too loudly if you're ever alone on a wet night at chucking-out time in Brum.
    Graham
    Worth it for a crazy night out on Broad Street, though - one of the UK's much-underrated evenings!

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