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  • Skewering The Stupid Scam.

    We all know that the alleged Mizen Scam is arrant nonsense which can’t be believed by anyone remotely sensible. The closer you look at it the more obvious this becomes. The suggestion, if anyone isn’t aware, is that Cross could afford to stand around waiting for a stranger to arrive because he had a plan to avoid being detained by a Constable (in possession of a bloodied knife of course) and that plan involved him separating himself off from the stranger and talking to the Constable out of earshot so that he could lie about the woman being alive and that he had been sent by another Constable (in Bucks Row) leaving Mizen to assume that he’d been questioned, searched and sent to find a PC. Meaning that Mizen had no need to detain the two men.

    I know…difficult to hear without a chuckle isn’t it?

    Cross and Paul approach PC. Mizen. First of all, there are two of them. This doesn’t discount the fact that they might have attacked the woman of course but it makes it less likely. Then of course they have approached Mizen totally of their own volition. Why would two guilty men have done something so stupid when they could easily have walked on unseen and remained completely anonymous? So this would immediately have given Sherlock Mizen little cause for concern. Then of course there was the possibility that Mizen might have taken their names and addresses (the men would have known that Constable’s carried notebooks) So what if Cross had given a real false name for Mizen to take down (as opposed to Cross)? How could he have got to work from then on? Surely the police would have had Constable’s on the street looking for men that came close to his description (from two people) and after finding him they put him in front of Mizen or Cross or both and it’s game over.

    This raises a secondary point of course. Surely it can’t be that unlikely that Mizen did indeed take their names and addresses or workplaces?

    And if Cross intended to tell Mizen that the woman was still alive why didn’t he begin the deception in Bucks Row? This would have been simplicity itself of course because Paul had ‘fancied’ that he’d felt movement. Cross only needed to have said “I think you might be right old chap.”

    The least believable part of this particular piece of fantasy is that, apparently, Cross made the nonsensical and potentially suicidal decision to ‘brazen it out’ (as Christer colourfully imagines it) on the basis that he could safely talk his way past any police officer that they ran into. Clearly this is drivel of the highest order considering that he was with a complete stranger over whom he had zero influence or control. Can anyone, genuinely, hand-on-heart believe that Cross came up with this plan, before deciding to stay put, in the handful of seconds of Paul’s approach. Not a chance. How could someone admit it without embarrassment? From start to finish this whole idea is an act of desperation which betrays a lack of confidence in the silly original suggestion that a serial killer, bloodied knife in hand, wouldn’t have fled into the darkness.

    Like most points used to frame this transparently innocent man it crumbles easily. A bit of common sense, a touch of reason, a glance at the evidence and all that’s left is an embarrassing pile and some creative fantasy writing. The only question is….why do they bother? Why do they carry on when it must be obvious to them that they are only making fools of themselves (and sadly, the subject as a whole)?
    Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; Yesterday, 10:52 AM.
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    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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    • Originally posted by The Baron View Post
      A man is standing near a crime scene, looking around nervously. There’s a woman lying on the ground. He’s not running. He’s not calling the cops. He’s just… standing. Like a man waiting for his WiFi to reconnect.

      Another guy walks by, sees him, and asks, "Uh… what are you doing?"

      The first guy dramatically points at the body. "Look! There’s a woman lying on the ground!"

      The second guy blinks. "Yeah… I can SEE that. Did you just find her like this?"

      The first guy nods. "Yup. Found her just like this. Just me, all alone."

      The second guy, now skeptical, steps closer. "And you’re just standing here… why?"

      The first guy shrugs. "Because if I leave, I’ll look guilty. So I figured… might as well wait for someone else to find her too!"

      The second guy groans. "Oh great. And now that I’m here, what does that make me?"

      The first guy smirks. "A co-founder!"

      Before the second guy can punch him, a cop walks up. He looks at them, then at the body. "Alright, which one of you idiots did this?"

      The first guy IMMEDIATELY points at the second guy. "HIM! He found her too!"

      The second guy yells, "WHAT?! YOU WERE ALREADY HERE!"

      The cop folds his arms. "So let me get this straight… One of you found the body, dragged another idiot into it, and now you BOTH look guilty?"

      The first guy nervously chuckles. "Well, I believe in teamwork, officer."

      The cop smirks. "Oh yeah? Well, congratulations, gentlemen. You’ve just co-founded a criminal investigation."

      The second guy facepalms. "Awesome. My first business venture, and it’s a homicide case."

      The first guy sighs. "Guess we’re partners now, huh?"

      The second guy groans. "Yeah, well, I’d rather go bankrupt."

      The cop pulls out his notebook. "Alright, founders. Do you prefer your prison sentence in monthly installments or one big lump sum?"



      The Baron
      I think you're looking for a creative board. None of your characters act or talk like real people, let alone any of the real people who witnessed elements of the Ripper cases.
      "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

      "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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      • Originally posted by The Baron View Post
        A man is standing near a crime scene, looking around nervously. There’s a woman lying on the ground. He’s not running. He’s not calling the cops. He’s just… standing. Like a man waiting for his WiFi to reconnect.

        Another guy walks by, sees him, and asks, "Uh… what are you doing?"

        The first guy dramatically points at the body. "Look! There’s a woman lying on the ground!"

        The second guy blinks. "Yeah… I can SEE that. Did you just find her like this?"

        The first guy nods. "Yup. Found her just like this. Just me, all alone."

        The second guy, now skeptical, steps closer. "And you’re just standing here… why?"

        The first guy shrugs. "Because if I leave, I’ll look guilty. So I figured… might as well wait for someone else to find her too!"

        The second guy groans. "Oh great. And now that I’m here, what does that make me?"

        The first guy smirks. "A co-founder!"

        Before the second guy can punch him, a cop walks up. He looks at them, then at the body. "Alright, which one of you idiots did this?"

        The first guy IMMEDIATELY points at the second guy. "HIM! He found her too!"

        The second guy yells, "WHAT?! YOU WERE ALREADY HERE!"

        The cop folds his arms. "So let me get this straight… One of you found the body, dragged another idiot into it, and now you BOTH look guilty?"

        The first guy nervously chuckles. "Well, I believe in teamwork, officer."

        The cop smirks. "Oh yeah? Well, congratulations, gentlemen. You’ve just co-founded a criminal investigation."

        The second guy facepalms. "Awesome. My first business venture, and it’s a homicide case."

        The first guy sighs. "Guess we’re partners now, huh?"

        The second guy groans. "Yeah, well, I’d rather go bankrupt."

        The cop pulls out his notebook. "Alright, founders. Do you prefer your prison sentence in monthly installments or one big lump sum?"



        The Baron
        Don't give up your day job.
        For now we see through a glass darkly, but then, face to face.
        Now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known.

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        • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
          Skewering The Stupid Scam.

          We all know that the alleged Mizen Scam is arrant nonsense which can’t be believed by anyone remotely sensible. The closer you look at it the more obvious this becomes. The suggestion, if anyone isn’t aware, is that Cross could afford to stand around waiting for a stranger to arrive because he had a plan to avoid being detained by a Constable (in possession of a bloodied knife of course) and that plan involved him separating himself off from the stranger and talking to the Constable out of earshot so that he could lie about the woman being alive and that he had been sent by another Constable (in Bucks Row) leaving Mizen to assume that he’d been questioned, searched and sent to find a PC. Meaning that Mizen had no need to detain the two men.

          I know…difficult to hear without a chuckle isn’t it?
          I'm new here, but I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that Herlock is the most sensible person on the discussion board.
          Kunochan
          Too Soon: An Irreverent Jack the Ripper Blog

          "The Jack the Ripper murders were not committed by Jack the Ripper, but by another gentleman of the same name."

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