All roads lead to Lechmere.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

That may be the key - fictional serial killers are bold, clever, witty, powerful, dangerous, and in control - all the things fascists like to pretend they are.

You mean Stow really is a Lechmere Lover and not, as I thought, a Lechmere Hater?

[caz]

Christ, could this get any worse?

I actually got on well with Sue face to face, and found her very friendly.

What a pair of losers.

[Dickere]

Eddy Butler is no Martin Fido.

From what I understand his long time partner in racist hate, fellow former BNP member Susan Clapp, is the great-great granddaughter of Charles Lechmere.

JM

Maybe there's a family tradition of getting the Clapp then. That would anger a man.

Round of applause, a standing ovation ?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Christ, could this get any worse?

I actually got on well with Sue face to face, and found her very friendly.

What a pair of losers.

Are you responding to my # 301?

[Abby Normal]

wow i didnt know that about Stow/Butler. maybe evil runs in the family (if lech was guilty of course).

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Maybe there's a family tradition of getting the Clapp then. That would anger a man.

Round of applause, a standing ovation ?

You mean the butler got the clapp?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

wow i didnt know that about Stow/Butler. maybe evil runs in the family (if lech was guilty of course).

I didn't either, until a few hours ago.

His wife / mistress's performance in the council chamber some years ago reminds me of some of the 'clapp' I got from her online:


Clapp has been notable for her numerous blunders. At the last Epping Forest district council meeting, she fluffed the lines that had been written for her, repeatedly referring to local young war hero Georgie Sparks' 'erotic sacrifice' while giggling into her papers. Sitting next to her, BNP Councillor Peter Turpin looked on in embarrassment.

http://eppingforestbnp.blogspot.com/2009/05/clapped-out-and-exiled-to-uttlesford.html

I wonder whether anyone can explain House of Lechmere's extraordinary popularity, with 3,500 subscribers, 15,000 views for a single video, accompanied by 600 votes of approval.

I don't think either Butler or Clapp received that much support when they stood in elections.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

I didn't either, until a few hours ago.

His wife / mistress's performance in the council chamber some years ago reminds me of some of the 'clapp' I got from her online:


Clapp has been notable for her numerous blunders. At the last Epping Forest district council meeting, she fluffed the lines that had been written for her, repeatedly referring to local young war hero Georgie Sparks' 'erotic sacrifice' while giggling into her papers. Sitting next to her, BNP Councillor Peter Turpin looked on in embarrassment.

http://eppingforestbnp.blogspot.com/...ttlesford.html


I wonder whether anyone can explain House of Lechmere's extraordinary popularity, with 3,500 subscribers, 15,000 views for a single video, accompanied by 600 votes of approval.

I don't think either Butler or Clapp received that much support when they stood in elections.

Susan Butler (née Clapp) was elected an Epping Forest councillor for the BNP in the Debden ward in 2006. The long-term partner of Eddy Butler, Susan Butler has been active in far-right politics for years, including when the BNP was a more overtly extreme outfit then it later became.

According to Searchlight, during her time in the BNP Clapp attended the aforementioned London New Right meeting, addressed by Holocaust denier Michele Renouf, alongside Leppert.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2021/04/28/for-britain-the-bnp-and-epping-forest-a-history/

[caz]

Are you responding to my # 301?

No, I was responding to the revelation that the Sue I thought I knew was this dreadful Susan Clapp person.

# 301 on my screen doesn't show up as one of your posts, so I don't know which one you meant, but I was not responding to you in any case.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

wow i didnt know that about Stow/Butler. maybe evil runs in the family (if lech was guilty of course).

Would that not involve incest, Abby? Butler has no Lechmere blood as far as I know - but it turns out I don't know much!

Free the Pickfords One!

Love,

Caz
X

[caz]

Susan Butler (née Clapp) was elected an Epping Forest councillor for the BNP in the Debden ward in 2006. The long-term partner of Eddy Butler, Susan Butler has been active in far-right politics for years, including when the BNP was a more overtly extreme outfit then it later became.

According to Searchlight, during her time in the BNP Clapp attended the aforementioned London New Right meeting, addressed by Holocaust denier Michele Renouf, alongside Leppert.

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2021/04/28/for-britain-the-bnp-and-epping-forest-a-history/

Good grief! Now I know why she was friendly towards me and my other half at the WS meetings. It was all down to the fact that we both happen to have pale skin and fair hair.

I'm going for a shower!



Love,

Caz
X

[caz]

One for Brits of a certain age...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M2EO3ZltYs

Love,

Caz
X

[rjpalmer]

"According to Searchlight, during her time in the BNP Clapp attended the aforementioned London New Right meeting, addressed by Holocaust denier Michele Renouf, alongside Leppert."

It would be interesting to know whether ‘Stow’ thinks that Renouf uses “sound historic methodology” in determining that the Holocaust was a hoax. He certainly likes to lecture Ripperologists on the subject, even arguing that the Lechmereans are nearly the only ones who ever use it.

This is remarkable considering that Stow told his audience in a recent video that we can safely ignore 3 out 5 relevant witnesses in Buck’s Row when assessing Paul’s estimated time of departure.

That’s the polar opposite of sound methodology.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

"According to Searchlight, during her time in the BNP Clapp attended the aforementioned London New Right meeting, addressed by Holocaust denier Michele Renouf, alongside Leppert."

It would be interesting to know whether ‘Stow’ thinks that Renouf uses “sound historic methodology” in determining that the Holocaust was a hoax. He certainly likes to lecture Ripperologists on the subject, even arguing that the Lechmereans are nearly the only ones who ever use it.

This is remarkable considering that Stow told his audience in a recent video that we can safely ignore 3 out 5 relevant witnesses in Buck’s Row when assessing Paul’s estimated time of departure.

That’s the polar opposite of sound methodology.

Yes.

I noticed that we made the same point about the evidence of timings, although I think you omitted to mention Pc Neil.

But as far as I recall, Stow never responded to either of us on that point.

I and others have argued that Lechmere's use of the name Cross at the inquests was necessary because that was the name by which Pickfords knew him, and not because he was trying to evade justice.

I am wondering what explanation Mr Butler has for using the name Stow.

I haven't asked him yet.

[Elamarna]

Yes.

I noticed that we made the same point about the evidence of timings, although I think you omitted to mention Pc Neil.

But as far as I recall, Stow never responded to either of us on that point.

I and others have argued that Lechmere's use of the name Cross at the inquests was necessary because that was the name by which Pickfords knew him, and not because he was trying to evade justice.

I am wondering what explanation Mr Butler has for using the name Stow.

I haven't asked him yet.

The arguments presented by the Lechmere theorists, or as they like to be known, Lecimerians, are very simple.

Everyone one else, apart from Paul is wrong. His time is miraculously syncronizied to that of Lechmere.
Even in a recent video, the manipulation was clear.
1st you say very loud that Lechmere said he left home ABOUT 3.30( this is so others can't say you are misleading the viewer, you give the time given in the vast majority of reports)

You then throw in the two, reports that say 3.20, fail to mention that both also say he started at 4am, and are probably from a common source, you don't mention 3.20 is almost certainly a typo. You leave the way open that he left even earlier.

You then time the walk to Brown's Yard, and you admit it's not exactly the route taken in 1888.

You arrive and say it took 6.5-7 minutes ( That's a fair time btw) .

Now the trick, the slight of hand, you say he left home AT 3.30( the "about" is silently forgotten) and you say 3.30 + 7 equals 3.37.

You add to this by insisting everyone else is wrong, and imply Baxter said 3.45, when he actually said not far from

You now have your mythical gap, timings mentioned, but sidestepped.

Illusion complete.