All roads lead to Lechmere.

[jmenges]

Of course, Mr Stow wasn’t ever the leader of the BNP,

He was a leader, but not the leader.

JM

[Abby Normal]

whatever your beliefs about lech in terms of suspecthood,he (along with Paul) did callously, to me anyway, leave a woman in obvious need of help. I do beleive they had every intention of alerting a policeman-because they did! but nonetheless they or at least one of them should have stayed with her to make sure she was ok-it was the middle of the night in a dodgy area and shes (at the very least) unconscious and vulnerable. what if they had never seen a policeman?
yes it was callous IMHO and Ive been saying it for years.

[MrBarnett]

Of course, Mr Stow wasn’t ever the leader of the BNP, and his use of the term ‘callous’ was echoing that notorious far right monster, Philip Sugden.

Mr Stow/Butler is one of the best researchers in the field in my opinion. And there’s nothing sinister about using a ‘false’ name is there?

One of my greatest regrets in life is that I’ve never had the opportunity to cast a vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party, but being a part-time Ripperologist has been some consolation.

[Ally]

What does anyone make of Edward Stow's claim in his latest video that Charles Crossmere and Robert Paul "callously" left the victim in Buck's Row, with the implication that they actually made little or no effort to alert a policeman?

As Edward Stow, actually Eddie Butler, notorious former leader of the racist and repugnant BNP, is obviously prone to .... interesting... conclusions about life and people in general, we can dismiss all of this theorizing as the kind of fantastic, blinkered and close-minded thinking an individual with his proclivities is prone to.

However, as you later point out, it's interesting that the watchman did not notice two men hurrying past. Perhaps he'd taken a privvy break, perhaps he'd taken a nap. But in any case, it's definitely selective thinking to assume they were attempting to flee without informing anyone, since.... they did inform Mizen.
So it's just further indicative of how far suspect theorists will contort themselves to try and make their suspect seem in anyway credible.

[Abby Normal]

or maybe All Lechmeres Roads Lead To Victims

[John Wheat]

Wouldn't a more accurate title for a thread be no roads lead to Lechmere?

[drstrange169]

Or the Greens, or Lilley or the watchman at Brown and Eagle, or P.C. Neil.

[Fiver]

If the railway P.C.'s post was in the archway, I could easily believe he didn't see them, but it does put a (hob)nail in the claim that the two mens boots sounded like hammers walking down the street.

Or Walter Purkiss and his wife, who even though they were awake, they didn't hear Lechmere, Paul, or PC Neil

[Trevor Marriott]

No, I agree. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

Yet, I'm glad that Stow reminded us of this constable because it raises an interesting question. If Paul and Crossmere didn't report seeing him, and he doesn't mention seeing them, where was he at aprox. 3:40-3:45, if he wasn't in his box by the gate? Another report states that this constable had been at the gate 'all night.'

Wouldn't this be a worthwhile question to ask in an actual police investigation? He was not at his post within a few or within several minutes of a woman's murder, 50 or 60 yards up the street, why wasn't he? Did he have a sudden need to wander off so he could relieve his bladder, or wash his hands?

I merely pose the question. He's an unknown.

It also poses the question of how reliable is the police testimony in this murder, especially the officer who said he passed by the murder spot a short time before the body was found and it wasnt there. which adds weight to Christers theory that Lechmere must have been the killer, but if the officer was less than liberal with the truth then that would eliminate Lechmere.

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[drstrange169]

If the railway P.C.'s post was in the archway, I could easily believe he didn't see them, but it does put a (hob)nail in the claim that the two mens boots sounded like hammers walking down the street.

[rjpalmer]

I wouldn't consider it a terrible lapse on Ed's part. Considering the three green 'Xs' on his map, he may have meant to point out the location of the watchman in Schneider's cap factory and should have walked another 20 yards or so for the railway gate.

After all, when you're a diehard Lechmere theorist, you have 12-15 crime scenes to manage and memorize.

[MrBarnett]

The entrance into the yard would have been immediately to the east of where Dusty placed his ‘b’, through an archway. That’s why the Weighing Machines were where they were.

[rjpalmer]

I'm a bit confused.

In the video the presenter points to area I've marked as A, but the map he shows has the position in the area I've marked B.

Isn't he a little farther west than what you have marked? But yes, something is not quite right.

From what I'm seeing, the lavender bins he motions toward are just past the far western edge of the board school on the opposite side of the street, so these bins would have been about in the middle of Schneider's cap factory. (Red X). Presumably, the gate to the railway yard would have been a bit further on, past the western end of the factory, that you have marked 'B'?

[drstrange169]

I'm a bit confused.

In the video the presenter points to area I've marked as A, but the map he shows has the position in the area I've marked B.

[rjpalmer]

I should have mentioned that Neil Bell also identifies him as PC 81 of the Great Eastern Railway in Capturing Jack the Ripper (2014)