Evidence of innocence

[Fiver]

Plus the risk that her bigamous marriages could have been overturned at any time while JAL was alive.

"Provided always, that neither this Act, nor anything therein contained, shall extend to any person or persons whose husband or wife shall be continually remaining beyond the seas by the space of seven years together, or whose husband or wife shall absent him or herself the one from the other by the space of seven years together, in any parts within his Majesties Dominions, the one of them not knowing the other to be living within that time.' - Bigamy Act of 1603

[MrBarnett]

Steven Maywood’s wife was 14/15 when he married her. She lied about her age on their marriage cert and it was also inflated on early censuses, but towards the end of her life her true age was being shown.

[MrBarnett]

Mac (Canadian apparently)

[MrBarnett]

The Guardian 1890 05 03

Ah, that’s ok then.

[drstrange169]

The Guardian 1890 05 03

[MrBarnett]

>>Did CAL have a stable male influence during his first seven years?<<

That would depend on when Cross and Lechmere started courting. It's not impossible that C.A.L. had, at least, 18 years of Thomas Cross in his life starting around the age of 1. He may have never have been able to recall a time when Tom was not in his childhood.

Plus, of course, there is always the possibility that Thomas Cross was his father.

When Cross was 14? What are you trying to imply about Maria?

[MrBarnett]

Dingo?

[drstrange169]

>>Did CAL have a stable male influence during his first seven years?<<

That would depend on when Cross and Lechmere started courting. It's not impossible that C.A.L. had, at least, 18 years of Thomas Cross in his life starting around the age of 1. He may have never have been able to recall a time when Tom was not in his childhood.

Plus, of course, there is always the possibility that Thomas Cross was his father.

[MrBarnett]

How about “dirty old man”, wasn’t my fault she looked about 13, when she was 25, and I looked about 40 when I was 28. I was taken as her father a few times, she was taken as our sons sister many times. It didn’t really worry me, but she sure got upset by both.

Yes, that was ubiquitous for an old man who had designs on younger women.

There are probably a few choice Elizabethan ones as a well.


Sigh! Perhaps we should start a new thread to list them all.

[GUT]

Sigh. A sugar daddy is someone who pays a woman for her favors. Try again. A slur for a man who engages in romantic relationships with a younger woman, no element of payment involved. Just getting insulted because you date someone younger than you and you're a man.

How about “dirty old man”, wasn’t my fault she looked about 13, when she was 25, and I looked about 40 when I was 28. I was taken as her father a few times, she was taken as our sons sister many times. It didn’t really worry me, but she sure got upset by both.

[MrBarnett]

Someone invented the term manther, but it never really caught on.

I'm interested in why Charles Lechmere is being described as having an absentee father.

Doesn't Thomas Cross count?

Some might consider it an insult to stepfathers.

Lechmere was an adult of 19 when Thomas Cross kicked the bucket, and far as we know, Cross could have been an ideal father figure: patient, responsible, kindhearted, and available. There's nothing to say otherwise.

Or we could paint Cross as a violent sadist and bent copper who exposed Charles to the most humiliating perversions.

I suspect that's the appeal of the Lechmere theory. He's basically a tabula rasa and one can chalk-up whatever fanciful suggestion one wants.

What was it Aristotle said, give me the child until he is seven and I will give you the man.

Did CAL have a stable male influence during his first seven years?

[rjpalmer]

rhino

trout

manther


tb

Our posts crossed (no pun)

Some young rock-and-roller, I forget which one, lost his girlfriend to a late-to-middle-aged actor.

He called such types "vampires"--feeding on youthful blood, because they were half-dead.

[rjpalmer]

I don't think there is a specific pejorative term for men who date much younger women.

Someone invented the term manther, but it never really caught on.

I'm interested in why Charles Lechmere is being described as having an absentee father.

Doesn't Thomas Cross count?

Some might consider it an insult to stepfathers.

Lechmere was an adult of 19 when Thomas Cross kicked the bucket, and far as we know, Cross could have been an ideal father figure: patient, responsible, kindhearted, and available. There's nothing to say otherwise.

Or we could paint Cross as a violent sadist and bent copper who exposed Charles to the most humiliating perversions.

I suspect that's the appeal of the Lechmere theory. He's basically a tabula rasa and one can chalk-up whatever fanciful suggestion one wants.

[The Baron]

rhino

trout

manther


tb

[Ms Diddles]

So the answer is, there is no specific slur for a man who dates younger woman or his partner in "crime".

I'm tempted to suggest "cradle snatcher" but as that's in no way gender specific, I think you're right.

I don't think there is a specific pejorative term for men who date much younger women.

That's presumably because it's regarded as perfectly normal (commendable even) and unworthy of comment.

That said, we get called "cougar" which I wouldn't say is a pejorative as it has, to my mind, quite a nice predatory ring to it!!

Still the fact that there's a name for it and not for the male equivalent tells a story in itself.



Edit: Sorry! Just saw Mr B got to cradle snatcher before me.