Charles Cross

[Simon Wood]

Hi Fisherman,

Please remind me.

Where did Crossmere's mother live?

Regards,

Simon

[Fisherman]

Sally:

"As to the rest, I know what I think about that - I mean, it's hardly the first time we've seen such exaggerated claims, is it? "

To begin with, the claims that the major part of the murders took place along the two thoroughfares between Doveton Street and Broad Street are anything but exaggerated. They are exact, precise and to the point - established facts. Like it or not!

But you fail to see what I am trying to convey here. If the papers had presented the WHOLE picture they were given, then they would also have presented that NOT ONLY did the major part of the slaying fall along his work route - but the Stride killing actually fell en route to his mothers house, AND at a time corresponding with a Saturday evening encounter.
This detail strengthens the Lechmere theory immensely, since it completes the geographical alignment - and the chronological one.

Now, you may perhaps understand that none of us, Edward or me, would favour giving the papers a scenario that is LESS convincing, and that contains LESS incriminating elements - and that is factually wrong, to boot? The killings did not all happen along his route to work.

So why would we tell the papers this? It would lessen the power of the theory and people on Casebook - even you! - would be able to point it out as wrong.

THAT is what you need to give som long hard afterthought. THAT is what you should try and honour with some clever deductions. And THEN you can come back with your useless criticism. I am not hoping too much, see.

Over and out, Sally - you´re on your own now.

Fisherman

[Sally]

Fisherman - I take the 'Latchmere' to be a simple spelling error.

As to the rest, I know what I think about that - I mean, it's hardly the first time we've seen such exaggerated claims, is it?

Go on, ask me to find the relevant posts.

[Lechmere]

The East London Advertiser story is quite accurate

[Fisherman]

Did you notice, Sally, that the papers have our man down as "Latchmere"?

What does that tell you? Nothing at all, I suppose?

Did you notice that they also have all the victims dying on his route to work?

Does that tell you anything? No.

As for the distance inbetween Nichols and Lechmere it is of very small importance, as long as we know that it was a short one - and that we know.

Now, go do something useful for a change. For example, read the above and try - TRY! - to understand the implications of it.

The best,
Fisherman

[Sally]

Oh Absolutely. And if only they'd known that Cross was discovered 'crouching over the body' - even the hapless cops couldn't have failed to be suspicious.... Could they?

If only things had been different, eh?

[Fisherman]

I think it would be fair to say that if the police had had knowledge about the name swop, the implications of the scam and how Lechmere´s route to job corresponded with the murder places, they would not need much ingenuity at any rate. Going by the book only would have ensured an overwhelming interest in our carman.

But books you don´t have, you can´t open.

The best,
Fisherman

[Lechmere]

Ooops

[Monty]

Far be it for me to make sweeping judgements for members of a whole profession or service, but...
I don’t think that policemen – on average – are known for independent thought. They tend to be set in their ways and governed by the rule book.

Yet you do, and ignorant comments too.

Monty

[Lechmere]

Far be it for me to make sweeping judgements for members of a whole profession or service, but...
I don’t think that policemen – on average – are known for independent thought. They tend to be set in their ways and governed by the rule book.

[Fisherman]

Martin Wilson:

"can any policeman reading or contributing to these boards say that a different name and a convenient 10 minutes accounted for on that particular day doesn't start their coppers nose twitching?"

...and if that nose catches a whiff of blood, then maybe some further interest could be added by the knowledge that the murders took place along the way he walked to his job, day in and day out? But for, that is, the Stride killing that just happened to occur along a route he may well have used to get to his mother´s house. Plus the Pinchin Street case just happened to land at the doorstep of his mother´s house too.

After that, any serious nose would have clogged up.

Then again, I am no policeman, so maybe I take an interest in details that are totally uninteresting and irrelevant.

All the best,
Fisherman

[martin wilson]

It's interesting that Paul said at the inquest that Cross touched him on the shoulder, so did the man who was with Mary Kelly according to Hutchison,although that's where the resemblance ends,still it may be a gesture ingrained through habit and thus done without thinking.
What time did Cross leave for work? 3.20 or 3.30?
If 3.20,based on Pauls' time of 3.45 and Micheal Connors timing of 6 minutes from Doveton street to Bucks Row,means Cross had 19 minutes unaccounted for.
However Mizen and Neil both said 3.45 so Paul may have been wrong and it was closer to 3.40 when he was in Bucks Row.
Micheal Connor thinks even if Cross was telling the truth about leaving home at 3.30 he still had time to kill Nicholls.
It's bad form to solicit opinion, so mark me down as a cad and a bounder,can any policeman reading or contributing to these boards say that a different name and a convenient 10 minutes accounted for on that particular day doesn't start their coppers nose twitching?
All the best.

[Mr. Candlebridge]

I too was spurred to make an (re)appearance after reading said article.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...nal-Green.html

[Fisherman]

Julie Newry:

"Thanks Fisherman Is there a book forthcoming?"

My pleasure, Julie - and no, I am not writing a book.

The best,
Fisherman

[Julie Newly]

Thanks Fisherman Is there a book forthcoming?
Thanks Mr Lucky will read

Julie Newly