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  • #31
    Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post

    Haha!

    I wasn't thinking of Holmes...

    I was thinking of Henry Hanslope, who lived in 11 Millers Court; the room on the ground floor opposite MJK's.

    The late great Mr Chris Scott found a document proving that Henry Hanslope went from the workhouse to number 11 Millers Court.

    This has recently been corroborated by Debra A who worked with Chris on this previously (And Debra's research capacity and knowledge base is unparalleled)

    We know that he is listed aged 40

    This places Henry Hanslope in 11 Millers Court at some point between 1888-1889

    The only frustrating thing is that we can't place Hanslope in Millers Court at a precise date and time.

    There was an unknown and unnamed man who was stopped by the police circa 10.30am as he left Millers Court.
    He claimed to be residing at number 3 Millers Court and was on his way to get milk...and the police let him walk on after he claimed to not have heard anything about the murder.

    My hypothesis is that this man.. was Hanslope.

    Hanslope at the time was also a porter.

    I believe he came from room 11 and not 3.


    The reason why Hanslope should be considered is because...

    he threatened to cut his wife's throat
    he beat up his own mother
    he tried/succeeded in raping his own teenage daughter.

    He was repeatedly violent towards women

    And at some point he DID live in the room that looked directly towards the window of MJK's room.

    Anyone in room 11 would have been able to observe that access to room 13 was possible through the latch accessed by the broken window.

    Now IF Hanslope WAS there at the time MJK was murdered; he may well have waited for her to be alone, snuck from his room 11 and accessed her room as she slept...and then attacked her as she lay in bed.

    IF Hanslope was the Ripper, he may have killed her opportunistically having observed her over a period of a few days.

    Hanslope was in and out of the workhouse on multiple occasions and so the likelihood of him having been the Ripper are greatly reduced by his repeated time spent in the workhouse.

    That said; he wasn't in the workhouse the night Kelly was killed...and so the question then is...well where was he?


    HH could very well be Henry Hanslope


    Got to love a hypothesis that smashes the wheel rather than turns it.


    haha!


    RD

    it appears my hypothesis may hold some water after all...

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    Note this article from 10th November.


    It contains several errors; even stating the murder took place in number 2 instead of 13.

    But here's where it's interesting...

    This article mentions the Market Porter who left the court circa 10.30am.

    He has to be the same man who is stopped by police as he leaves circa 10.30am. His name isn't mentioned; except to state he was off to get some milk.

    But the article above specifically states that a Market Porter who "lives in Millers Court opposite the house of the deceased."

    The house opposite was room 11 (downstairs)

    Now let's just flush out the idea that the article means the room opposite room 2 and not 13...well the room opposite room 2 certainly wasn't the room in which MJK was murdered and room 2 was also upstairs.

    We can therefore accept that the article doesn't mean the room opposite number 2, but specifically the room opposite Mary's room.

    As far as I'm aware; it has never been considered that the nan who left the court and was stopped by police had come from room 11; because it states in the majority of articles that the man came from room 3 and not room 11.

    However, my hypothesis that the man who was stopped by police came from room 11 and not 3 now becomes something worth serious consideration, based on the article above.

    Now here's where things become very interesting... we know from the amazing research from the late and great Mr Chris Scott and the research undertaken by the wonderful Debra A; that a man named Henry Hanslope at some point in 1888/1889 lived in room 11 Millers Court.

    The room opposite Mary

    And the same room highlighted in the article above.

    Henry Hanslope described himself as a "porter" who worked in the local market; which also matches the article above.

    Now for those of you not familiar with Henry Hanslope...

    He brutally assaulted his own mother.
    Attempted/succeeded in raping his own teenage daughter
    Threatened to cut his wife's throat with a knife.

    Now, thanks to the research undertaken by Debra and Belloc (and others whom I'd also like to acknowledge) we have some idea of Hanslope's antecedents.

    And there's a lot more about him that I believe is relevant but will need to be incorporated into another thread.


    So, let's just let that sink in for a moment....

    A man who acted aggressively towards his own mother, wife, and daughter at one point lived in the room opposite Mary, room 11.
    The article above highlights the Market Porter living in the same room 11 and who only discovered there had been a murder at the exact time that the press reported another man had left to get milk as he left room 3.

    Now based on the timings, we have 2 men doing the same thing as almost the exact same time; but the rooms being different; ergo, room 11 and 3 respectively.

    However, the article above essentially describes the same man, but crucially highlights that he "lives in Millers Court in the house opposite the deceased"

    So by mentioning that there was a man living opposite Mary who discovers there had been a murder at the same time the man who got milk also left the court; I believe that the papers incorrectly stated room 3 and should have stated room 11.

    The question is...If Henry Hanslope was living opposite Mary on the same night she was murdered; we then have a proven violent sexual offender living in the room opposite Mary and with full view of her accessible broken window and locked door.


    So here's my hypothesis...



    Henry Hanslope hears Mary singing, and watches her from room 11.

    He waits for Blotchy to leave and waits for the room to go dark. He leaves room 11 and looks through the window of room 13 to see Mary laying facing the partition fast asleep. He reaches through the latch and opens the door and silently approaches her on the bed.

    He then grabs her and she manages to cry "oh murder" as she is awoken, just as he cuts her throat.

    He then works in the dark and obliterates her.

    He knows he won't be disturbed because her client has left and she has already gone to bed. He also knows that she has split from Barnett.

    He then leaves and takes the key and locks the door and takes a few seconds to wash his hands at the water tap and then goes into his room. His escape takes under 20 seconds and the reason the killer isn't seen leaving the court; is because he didn't leave until 10.30am when he leaves the court and is stopped by police.
    He tells them room 3 and they let him go on his way because quite frankly NOBODY would expect the real killer to just casually walk out the court to go get some milk.
    At this point they are looking for a mad Jew and have no concept of psychopathy.

    I would suggest that IF the man who left the court and is mentioned in the article above was infact Henry Hanslope; then he becomes a very significant candidate for being the man who butchered MJK.


    "CatcH me when you can MisHter Lusk"

    Interesting how the 2 letters that stand out from that phrase are "H.H"
    The first H is written lower than all the other letters in the phrase and the additional H in the word Mishter also highlights another H.

    Henry Hanslope perhaps?


    thoughts please?

    RD


    I will aim to shift this to a different thread so as not to detract from this topic.
    Last edited by The Rookie Detective; 09-04-2024, 12:58 PM.
    "Great minds, don't think alike"

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