Deadly occupations and serial murder

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  • Pierre
    Inactive
    • Sep 2015
    • 4407

    #121
    [QUOTE=Fisherman;423902]

    And also, the title of your thread: "Deadly occupations..."

    Bias.

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    • Henry Flower
      Inactive
      • Nov 2010
      • 1131

      #122
      [QUOTE=Pierre;424092]
      Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

      And also, the title of your thread: "Deadly occupations..."

      Bias.
      You think he's putting the cart before the horse?

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      • Herlock Sholmes
        Commissioner
        • May 2017
        • 22330

        #123
        [QUOTE=Henry Flower;424093]
        Originally posted by Pierre View Post

        You think he's putting the cart before the horse?



        Herlock
        Regards

        Herlock Sholmes

        ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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        • John G
          Commissioner
          • Sep 2014
          • 4919

          #124
          Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
          The Worshipful Company of Carmen - oldest transport organisation in the world, according to their website...

          http://www.thecarmen.co.uk
          Ah, but this was a livery company, which is not, and never was, the same as a trade union: http://cityandlivery.co.uk/the-city-...companies.html

          In fact, they had more in common with freemasonry: http://cityandlivery.co.uk/the-city-...nd-freema.html

          Oops. I really hope this isn't going to trigger a conspiracy theory discussion!
          Last edited by John G; 08-03-2017, 12:27 PM.

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          • Herlock Sholmes
            Commissioner
            • May 2017
            • 22330

            #125
            Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
            The Worshipful Company of Carmen - oldest transport organisation in the world, according to their website...

            http://www.thecarmen.co.uk
            I'd love to see the reply if Fisherman tried to join.

            Regards

            Herlock
            Regards

            Herlock Sholmes

            ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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            • Elamarna
              Commissioner
              • Sep 2014
              • 5807

              #126
              Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
              The Worshipful Company of Carmen - oldest transport organisation in the world, according to their website...

              http://www.thecarmen.co.uk
              Well done Joshua, i have to say i was not even sure there would be an organisation in 1888. not really a Trades union as John also pointed out, and certainly nothing like the teamsters.


              Steve
              Last edited by Elamarna; 08-03-2017, 01:05 PM.

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              • Elamarna
                Commissioner
                • Sep 2014
                • 5807

                #127
                [QUOTE=Pierre;424091]
                Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

                Hi Steve,

                No problem.

                I wrote "And he did not give the name of his wife and children at the inquest."

                Not as you wrote above, "the names".

                Pierre
                With you now.

                Steve

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                • MrBarnett
                  *
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 5672

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                  Well done Joshua, i have to say i was not even sure there would be an organisation in 1888. not really a Trades union as John also pointed out, and certainly nothing like the teamsters.


                  Steve
                  FYI,

                  The London Carmen's Trade Union (LCTU) was founded in 1888.

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                  • Elamarna
                    Commissioner
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 5807

                    #129
                    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post
                    FYI,

                    The London Carmen's Trade Union (LCTU) was founded in 1888.
                    Hi thanks for that, I wasn't far out time wise then.

                    Any idea who they merged with and which union it would be now. .My guess is Unite or GMB. Be interesting to know


                    Steve

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                    • Sam Flynn
                      Casebook Supporter
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 13333

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                      Hi thanks for that, I wasn't far out time wise then.

                      Any idea who they merged with and which union it would be now. .My guess is Unite or GMB. Be interesting to know
                      Unite would be my guess, too. Before that, I daresay it would have amalgamated into the Transport & General Workers' Union, which got superseded by Unite.
                      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                      • Joshua Rogan
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 3205

                        #131
                        Nice one, Mr B

                        Steve,

                        The London Carmen's Trade Union was established in 1888, renamed the National Union of Vehicle Workers in 1914 and amalgamated with other unions to form the Transport and General Workers Union in 1922.

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                        • MrBarnett
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                          • Nov 2013
                          • 5672

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                          Unite would be my guess, too. Before that, I daresay it would have amalgamated into the Transport & General Workers' Union, which got superseded by Unite.
                          Yes, Gareth, you're right - TGWU (via the National Union of Vehicle Workers). Some of their early records are still in existence, apparently.

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                          • Elamarna
                            Commissioner
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 5807

                            #133
                            Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                            Unite would be my guess, too. Before that, I daresay it would have amalgamated into the Transport & General Workers' Union, which got superseded by Unite.
                            That would be my guess too Gareth. However I think some oil tanker drivers are in GMB.


                            Steve

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                            • MrBarnett
                              *
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 5672

                              #134
                              Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
                              Nice one, Mr B

                              Steve,

                              The London Carmen's Trade Union was established in 1888, renamed the National Union of Vehicle Workers in 1914 and amalgamated with other unions to form the Transport and General Workers Union in 1922.
                              Joshua,

                              You beat me to it!

                              Gary

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                              • Henry Flower
                                Inactive
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 1131

                                #135
                                Is there a link between trades union membership and serial killing?

                                Anyone?

                                No?

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