Perfect mDNA match is proof of fraud

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  • mklhawley
    Chief Inspector
    • Nov 2009
    • 1904

    #1

    Perfect mDNA match is proof of fraud

    Hi all,

    According to the article, Karen Miller's (maternal descendent of Eddowes) mDNA is a 100% perfect match with Eddowes and Matilda's (maternal descendent of Kosminski) mDNA is a perfect match with Kosminski.

    It is physically impossible for the mDNA of a descendent to be a perfect match with an ancestor. A generational mDNA mutation rate of 3 X 10 to the minus 5 guarantees this.

    A 100% perfect match CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING, the mDNA on the shawl is the same at the living descendent's, i.e., it's a fraud.

    ...unless the article lied and it wasn't a 100% perfect match. If so, falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

    Sincerely,

    Mike
    The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
    http://www.michaelLhawley.com
  • mklhawley
    Chief Inspector
    • Nov 2009
    • 1904

    #2
    Am I wrong on this point?
    The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
    http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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    • GUT
      Commissioner
      • Jan 2014
      • 7841

      #3
      Well you know my view.

      I have viewed literally hundreds of DNA reports in paternity matters that is is Mr "X" the father of child "B". So pretty close relationships the highest I have ever seen [and remember we are talking nuclear DNA here] is 99.9999% or 1 chance in a million that it's wrong.

      So 100% nope, don't think there's a DNA lab in the world that would sign off to that.

      However I don't think that it's fraud just "puff" to garner interest.
      G U T

      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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      • mklhawley
        Chief Inspector
        • Nov 2009
        • 1904

        #4
        Puff it is then. Thanks GUT
        The Ripper's Haunts/JtR Suspect Dr. Francis Tumblety (Sunbury Press)
        http://www.michaelLhawley.com

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        • GUT
          Commissioner
          • Jan 2014
          • 7841

          #5
          In case you don't know puff = BS.
          G U T

          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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          • wolfie1
            Detective
            • Apr 2010
            • 134

            #6
            Originally posted by GUT View Post
            In case you don't know puff = BS.

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            • The Good Michael
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 3773

              #7
              I thought 'Puff' was a magic dragon. But so is this shawl.

              Mike
              huh?

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              • GUT
                Commissioner
                • Jan 2014
                • 7841

                #8
                Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
                I thought 'Puff' was a magic dragon. But so is this shawl.

                Mike
                WHAT???

                The Shawl is a Magic Dragon, now t all makes sense.
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • Barnaby
                  Sergeant
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 765

                  #9
                  Is the shawl made from hemp? Can we smoke it?

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                  • Limehouse
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1895

                    #10
                    Is it known whether these tests were carried out using the LCN DNA testing method?

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                    • GUT
                      Commissioner
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7841

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Limehouse View Post
                      Is it known whether these tests were carried out using the LCN DNA testing method?
                      Short answer no not known at this point of time.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • Limehouse
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1895

                        #12
                        Thanks GUT.

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                        • lynn cates
                          Commisioner
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13841

                          #13
                          not wrong

                          Hello Mike. No, not wrong.

                          Frankly, how could it EVER be shown that these "descendants" did not deposit their DNA recently?

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • pinkmoon
                            Chief Inspector
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 1813

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mklhawley View Post
                            Hi all,

                            According to the article, Karen Miller's (maternal descendent of Eddowes) mDNA is a 100% perfect match with Eddowes and Matilda's (maternal descendent of Kosminski) mDNA is a perfect match with Kosminski.

                            It is physically impossible for the mDNA of a descendent to be a perfect match with an ancestor. A generational mDNA mutation rate of 3 X 10 to the minus 5 guarantees this.

                            A 100% perfect match CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING, the mDNA on the shawl is the same at the living descendent's, i.e., it's a fraud.

                            ...unless the article lied and it wasn't a 100% perfect match. If so, falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

                            Sincerely,

                            Mike
                            I won't waffle on but the one thing has made me doubt all this is quite a simple one the man behind all of this has recently opened a ripper shop that sells a lot of interesting things including an authentic very collectable hand crafted made from the finest plastic that mankind can provide yoyo.check at the website www.jacktherippertoursandstore.co.uk
                            Three things in life that don't stay hidden for to long ones the sun ones the moon and the other is the truth

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                            • MrBarnett
                              *
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 5672

                              #15
                              Pink ,

                              I never had you down as a yoyophobe.

                              MrB

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