Kosminski and Victim DNA Match on Shawl

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[Admin]

Temporarily closing the thread while we deal with multiple issues.

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[Theagenes]

Once again the Yankees butchering the Queen's English.

Yes, I am a bit embarrassed as I'm usually on the more old school side of things. For example, I absolutely loathe the use of "impact" as a verb.

[Harry D]

You're both right. The original meaning of the word is "surprised" but in more modern usage it has come to mean "unfazed; unperturbed." I was using it in the latter sense.

See:
http://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wo...d-and-bemused/

Once again the Yankees butchering the Queen's English.

[Theagenes]

Well all right, Harry. I prefer the full OED but I agree. A nonplussed person is doubtless surprised, but a surprised person is not necessarily nonplussed. My quote from the SOED was intended to show the difference.

Cheers

You're both right. The original meaning of the word is "surprised" but in more modern usage it has come to mean "unfazed; unperturbed." I was using it in the latter sense.

See:

http://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/wordroutes/perplexed-by-nonplussed-and-bemused/

[RockySullivan]

Hi RockySullivan,

When someone starts spouting the Bible all hope for rational discussion becomes lost.

Regards,

Simon

Well looks like this is just the right thread for a bible verse then! Lol

[mickreed]

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...ish/nonplussed

So surprised and confused that one is unsure how to react:
Henry looked completely nonplussed

Well all right, Harry. I prefer the full OED but I agree. A nonplussed person is doubtless surprised, but a surprised person is not necessarily nonplussed. My quote from the SOED was intended to show the difference.

Cheers

[mickreed]

Hi RockySullivan,

When someone starts spouting the Bible all hope for rational discussion becomes lost.

Regards,

Simon

Oh, I don't know, Simon.

'Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?' Matt 7:16

There seem to be quite a few thorns and thistles in this thread.

[Harry D]

No! See OED

nonplus nɒnˈplʌs ♫ noun & verb. l16.

A noun. Pl. -sses. A state in which no more can be said or done; inability to proceed in speech or action; a state of perplexity; a standstill. Chiefly in at a nonplus, bring to a nonplus, reduce to a nonplus. l16.
A. Jessopp Prophets are never at a nonplus, never surprised.
B verb trans. Infl. -ss-. Bring (a person etc.) to a nonplus; perplex; make (a thing) ineffective or inoperative. Freq. as nonplussed ppl adjective. e17.
P. G. Wodehouse The spectacle…was enough to nonplus anyone. N. Monsarrat It was all very well to be puzzled, but one should not be completely nonplussed.
nonpluˈssation noun (rare) the action of nonplussing someone; the condition of being nonplussed: m19.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/nonplussed

So surprised and confused that one is unsure how to react:
Henry looked completely nonplussed

[Gene Lewis]

None of this is true because the shawl couldn't have been at any of the murder sites.

seems I have seen that thread before… Is it from a text processor ?

[mickreed]

Nonplussed DOES mean surprised, doesn't it?

No! See OED

nonplus nɒnˈplʌs ♫ noun & verb. l16.

A noun. Pl. -sses. A state in which no more can be said or done; inability to proceed in speech or action; a state of perplexity; a standstill. Chiefly in at a nonplus, bring to a nonplus, reduce to a nonplus. l16.
A. Jessopp Prophets are never at a nonplus, never surprised.
B verb trans. Infl. -ss-. Bring (a person etc.) to a nonplus; perplex; make (a thing) ineffective or inoperative. Freq. as nonplussed ppl adjective. e17.
P. G. Wodehouse The spectacle…was enough to nonplus anyone. N. Monsarrat It was all very well to be puzzled, but one should not be completely nonplussed.
nonpluˈssation noun (rare) the action of nonplussing someone; the condition of being nonplussed: m19.

[mickreed]

By the way, I think it's only fitting to wish everyone
MERRY MICHAELMAS!

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As a stick-in-the-mud, I prefer to wait until the real Michaelmas, 11 October.

Just like the Inland Revenue, the pre-1752 calendar cuts it for me.

[Harry D]

Nonplussed DOES mean surprised, doesn't it?

[mickreed]

I have in my possession the green velvet that Liz Stride gave to Catherine Lane on the night she died. The velvet was passed down the family and in 1966 was fashioned into a jacket and worn by Catherine Lane`s great -grand child, The Small Faces bass player Ronnie Lane. Anyway, that`s what the chap at the market told me..

Damn Jon, you and me must have gone to the same market stall. You must have got the imitation one. Bad Luck.

[mickreed]

Chris pointed out in the other thread, that Jari has apparently been made aware of this issue. I would think his reaction at being told about it would be very telling. If he seemed non-plussed as though he was well aware of it then it's probably a case of Edwards misreporting the results. If, on the other hand, he seemed surprised, then we probably have a real problem.

Top post Theagenes. Thanks.

Yes, if JL seemed surprised - then 'Gordon Bennett!' as they used to say where I come from.