Kosminski and Victim DNA Match on Shawl

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  • GUT
    Commissioner
    • Jan 2014
    • 7841

    #61
    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello GUT.

    "Of course it is, he probably knitted the shawl."

    Now you're talking! No shawl is listed amongst Kate's effects.

    Cheers.
    LC
    You noticed that small detail?
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #62
      simple answer

      Hello GUT.

      "Now, assuming the above is correct, are they the same shawl?"

      No.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • GUT
        Commissioner
        • Jan 2014
        • 7841

        #63
        Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
        Hello GUT.

        "Now, assuming the above is correct, are they the same shawl?"

        No.

        Cheers.
        LC
        Now there's a cynic.
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #64
          reason

          Hello Jonathan. Good to hear a voice of reason amidst all the nonsense.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • lynn cates
            Commisioner
            • Aug 2009
            • 13841

            #65
            fortune

            Hello Jon.

            "So we have a killer who brings this cloth to the murder, leaves it there and cuts another piece of cloth from her body to carry away the organs...."

            Quite.

            "Well, someone's insane to come up with that idea, not sure if it's the killer or the author..."

            Insane? His gift shop will make a fortune.

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • GUT
              Commissioner
              • Jan 2014
              • 7841

              #66
              Question,

              Which gift shop does he own?
              G U T

              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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              • lynn cates
                Commisioner
                • Aug 2009
                • 13841

                #67
                Cross

                Hello Barbara.

                "Considering the information Rob House discovered that the murders were all near where Kosminski lived. . ."

                Taking a page from the Crossmere people?

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • Writerboy
                  Cadet
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 45

                  #68
                  No mention of the fact that it was part if Eddowes' apron that was found , covered in blood and faeces... Where was the shawl supposedly found? And are we really meant to believe a bobby asked to take it home as his wife was interested in dressmaking? Also AK would have been 23,surely way too young, five years younger than the lowest eye witness estimate...

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                  • lynn cates
                    Commisioner
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 13841

                    #69
                    right

                    Hello Trevor.

                    "Of course another question is were these stains/marks documented before the shawl came into the possession of the current owner?"

                    Right again.

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • lynn cates
                      Commisioner
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 13841

                      #70
                      well reasoned

                      Hello Jeff. Well reasoned.

                      Cheers.
                      LC

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                      • lynn cates
                        Commisioner
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 13841

                        #71
                        quite

                        Hello Harry.

                        "I'd feel a lot more confident if the story hadn't broke in the Daily Fail. That's enough to set alarm bells ringing straight away."

                        Just so.

                        Cheers.
                        LC

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                        • allen
                          Cadet
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 7

                          #72
                          GUT, I couldn't agree more - if the case has been scientifically solved - and the jury has to be still very much out on that - then please don't try to weave all of this spurious, speculative and unscientific nonsense about the Michaelmas stuff into the story.
                          The chances have always been that whoever JtR was, he was no more than a sad psychopath who had no thoughts of conspiracies, leaving "clues" or anthing like that.
                          Allen

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                          • lynn cates
                            Commisioner
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 13841

                            #73
                            choice

                            Hello Harry. Thanks.

                            "If the shawl IS the genuine article and shares (mitochondrial) DNA of Eddowes AND Kosminski, then that's pretty compelling at first glance."

                            That he was with Eddowes?

                            "However, I'm no science wiz, so it could turn out to be a load of old bunkum."

                            Never forget, this was also done with Walter Sickert.

                            Question: Why did this shop man choose Kosminski rather that Druitt or Tumblety?

                            Hmmmm.

                            Cheers.
                            LC

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                            • PaulB
                              Superintendent
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2218

                              #74
                              Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                              Hello Harry.

                              "I'd feel a lot more confident if the story hadn't broke in the Daily Fail. That's enough to set alarm bells ringing straight away."

                              Just so.

                              Cheers.
                              LC
                              In fairness it didn't. Not really. The book has been known about for ages - one has been able to advance order it on Amazon for a long time - and today was the day when nda's were lifted and the publicity machine rolled into action. The Mail was just one media outlet, BBC another.

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                              • lynn cates
                                Commisioner
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 13841

                                #75
                                somehow

                                Hello GUT. Thanks.

                                "You noticed that small detail?"

                                Yes. But perhaps I should wave my hand and proclaim, "Somehow, he found a way to . . ."

                                Cheers.
                                LC

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