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  • Are these pictures of Aaron Kosminski?

    Hi all,
    I've been revisiting Kosminski to try and learn more about him, as well as the shawl business, which I admit I only have a passing knowledge of. Anyway, I was browsing Ancestry and came across a couple of photos claiming to be of Aaron Mordke Kosminski (born 11 September 1865 ).

    The first one allegedly shows Aaron (seated), Isaac, and Matilda Kosminski.
    The second one is a colorized photo of Aaron.

    Are these legit?​​
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    I would suspect no one knows for certain. The bottom one, the man standing is rather similar to that A.I. rubbish floating about though...

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    • #3
      The standing man in the group photo could well have been the starting point for the rubbish AI image Russell Edwards is claiming '100%' to be Aaron.

      The seated man, who you say is claimed to be Aaron, has a different jaw structure to the Aaron in your first photo, which also looks quite AIish to me. However, it's possible that the seated figure could have been the starting point for your pic 1?

      Call me suspicious, but the whole caboodle looks a bit fake to me (even the group photo has an artificial feel about it), especially when you consider that the Isaac I know about was quite a bit older than Aaron, whereas, (if you haven't got your Isaacs and Aarons mixed up) the Isaac standing in the group photo looks a lot younger!
      For now we see through a glass darkly, but then, face to face.
      Now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by chubbs View Post
        The standing man in the group photo could well have been the starting point for the rubbish AI image Russell Edwards is claiming '100%' to be Aaron.

        The seated man, who you say is claimed to be Aaron, has a different jaw structure to the Aaron in your first photo, which also looks quite AIish to me. However, it's possible that the seated figure could have been the starting point for your pic 1?

        Call me suspicious, but the whole caboodle looks a bit fake to me (even the group photo has an artificial feel about it), especially when you consider that the Isaac I know about was quite a bit older than Aaron, whereas, (if you haven't got your Isaacs and Aarons mixed up) the Isaac standing in the group photo looks a lot younger!
        Thanks for your explanation. It was actually the repeated mentions of Russell Edwards' talk about Kosminski in the press that prompted me to look into it further as I admit to having a bit of a blind spot when it comes to talk of AI, Russell Edwards and bloody shawls. I always try to keep an open mind, but I'm not convinced so far—far from it. However, I do sometimes wonder if the shawl or table runner might not have belonged to either Eddowes or Kosminski. Perhaps it belonged to someone else, such as PC Richard Pearce or the night watchman George Morris. Could one of them have covered the body with the cloth before transport? Could it have picked up Eddowes' blood, and possibly the killer's too? At the mortuary, was it removed and given to Amos Simpson as a souvenir? Although, what Simpson, a Met police officer stationed in Herts, was doing there isn't entirely clear in my mind.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MrTwibbs View Post

          Thanks for your explanation. It was actually the repeated mentions of Russell Edwards' talk about Kosminski in the press that prompted me to look into it further as I admit to having a bit of a blind spot when it comes to talk of AI, Russell Edwards and bloody shawls. I always try to keep an open mind, but I'm not convinced so far—far from it. However, I do sometimes wonder if the shawl or table runner might not have belonged to either Eddowes or Kosminski. Perhaps it belonged to someone else, such as PC Richard Pearce or the night watchman George Morris. Could one of them have covered the body with the cloth before transport? Could it have picked up Eddowes' blood, and possibly the killer's too? At the mortuary, was it removed and given to Amos Simpson as a souvenir? Although, what Simpson, a Met police officer stationed in Herts, was doing there isn't entirely clear in my mind.
          Hi Mr. Twibbs,

          To some of these things, I would say that it's possible, but do we have any real reason to believe that it's the case? There are a lot of things that are possible.

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