New Tests on Tilly letter prove it genuine

[Jeff Leahy]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...d-34321787.amp

[Jeff Leahy]

Update: Kozminski and Matilda AI. Latest Mid Journey 6.1 image reconstructions.

[The Baron]

Thanks Jeff! Very interesting!

Not that I need to be convinced further



The Baron

[Herlock Sholmes]

I tend toward caution on this. Something doesn’t smell right.

“From the Jew Kosminski Wednesday week past. On walking alongside the fruit barrow poor Mary took such fright when the lunatic ran at her with those ghastly scissors yelling his devil tongue. Mary ran all the way back. It’s a wonder he hasn't hung for what he did to those poor girls and the terror he has delivered to poor Tilly.“

Named as a barber, hairdresser and he ran at Mary with… scissors. Seems a bit neat? What is ‘ghastly’ about a pair of scissors.

It also seems strange that this educated man uses ‘hung’ instead of the correct ‘hanged’?

How come Kosminski was roaming around with our Vicar talking as if his being the ripper was a proven? Was he the only one in the East End that knew this? Or did everyone know but they had forgiven him?

Fishy imo.

PS. Maybe I could add the ‘almost’ cliché of a cockney fruit barrow for scenery and a bigoted old priest calling Kosminski’s non-English talk as ‘devil tongue.’

[Herlock Sholmes]

Chris Phillips has made some interesting in the discussion on the testing over on JtRForums.

https://www.jtrforums.com/forum/persons-of-interest-or-actual-suspects/aaron-kosminski/618903-new-updates-on-tilly-letter

[The Baron]

Jeff wrote:

"This letter has Kozminski attack Mary with a pair of scissors (A forger would have said knife) And its NO coincidence that a few days later Alice McKenzie was killed with a four inch blunt blade? or broken pair of Tailoring scissors"


For me personally, this is the most valuable post Jack the Ripper related I have read this year!



The Baron

[Herlock Sholmes]

Google Aaron Kosminski….go to his Wikipedia page……the very first line…..

Aaron Kosminski (born Aron Mordke Kozmiński; 11 September 1865 – 24 March 1919) was a Polish barber, hairdresser, and suspect in the Jack the Ripper case.

And he just happened to be walking around with scissors?

Maybe he was.

If there letter is genuine, and maybe it is, Reverend Dott certainly wasn’t talking about Kosminski as the ripper though.

[rjpalmer]

Kozminski running with scissors almost comes off as a joke. I had a friend who owned this t-shirt.

[Patrick Differ]

It's not clear to me how a person like Kosminski goes from JTR at age 23 to embicil at age 30. I dont see him with a sharp pair of scissors cutting throats. Although finding any sort of writing from 1888 referencing a JTR suspect is very cool. Kosminski does not add up to me as JTR.

[c.d.]

I think I am missing something here. What does this do to Anderson's assertion that they had put the Ripper (Kosminski?) in an asylum? Or can that not be determined from the time frame of the letter?

c.d.

[rjpalmer]

I think I am missing something here. What does this do to Anderson's assertion that they had put the Ripper (Kosminski?) in an asylum? Or can that not be determined from the time frame of the letter?

c.d.

I'm not sure what you are referring to. Aaron Kosminski was sent to the asylum in February 1891, and the letter allegedly dates to July 1889, so there is no conflict, unless one wants to argue that Anderson's suspect was a different Kosminski who was also a hairdresser.

The Mirror articles makes a strange assertion:

"Sceptics of the Kosminski theory claim that the Polish barber could not have committed the killings because he was in a psychiatric hospital. But the letter appears to show this not to be the case."

Where the writer came up with this strange idea is anyone's guess. I've never seen a critic of the Kosminski theory make this suggestion.

[c.d.]

Ok. Thanks. I somehow missed the date of the letter but that clears it up.

c.d.

[Tom_Wescott]

Three dolla bill, ya'll.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[John Wheat]

It's not clear to me how a person like Kosminski goes from JTR at age 23 to embicil at age 30. I dont see him with a sharp pair of scissors cutting throats. Although finding any sort of writing from 1888 referencing a JTR suspect is very cool. Kosminski does not add up to me as JTR.

Hi Patrick

That's because the chances of Kosminski being the Ripper are virtually zero.

Cheers John

[Herlock Sholmes]

Google Aaron Kosminski….go to his Wikipedia page……the very first line…..

Aaron Kosminski (born Aron Mordke Kozmiński; 11 September 1865 – 24 March 1919) was a Polish barber, hairdresser, and suspect in the Jack the Ripper case.

And he just happened to be walking around with scissors?

Maybe he was.

If there letter is genuine, and maybe it is, Reverend Dott certainly wasn’t talking about Kosminski as the ripper though.

I have to correct myself here. I’d made an assumption which I think was wrong. I can’t see anyone at the time referring to the ripper victims as ‘girls.’ I agree with Karsten Giese that, if genuine, the Reverend was referring to The Bell Club incident.

https://forum.casebook.org/forum/ripper-discussions/suspects/kosminski-aaron/801488-the-bell-club-incident-and-the-1887-attack-on-aaron-abrahams#post80148

Just for the record I’m not yet convinced that it is genuine. The text seems a bit fishy to me (with no disrespect meant to Fishy1118 of course)