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A clubman killing Stride
This is not 'wild speculation', though it's only one possibility among many. However, Morris Eagle or possibly Joseph Lave make the most sense here. The last person to enter the club by all accounts was Morris Eagle, at approximately 12:40am. This is a fact he could not change, nor could he keep the people inside from telling this to the police. It is certainly possible that upon turning into the gateway, he was surprised by the woman blocking his path, trying to push her services on to him. He pulled her out of the way and pushed her down, yelling 'Lipski' at Schwartz. Where I disagree with Rob is that I don't see him then taking her into the yard and killing her with one slice of a knife. Stride wasn't a rage killing at all.
What possibly recommends Joseph Lave is that he said he 'walked no further than the end of the street', which was probably Commercial Road, since the end of the pathway would not have been much of a walk. Schwartz did not describe seeing anyone turning ONTO Berner Street from Commercial Road, which is interesting, because once he turns on to Berner Street, he's behind BS Man who is walking towards the club as though he had also just turned on to the street. Of course, the problem with this is if Lave was BS Man, and entered the house 5 or 10 minutes prior to Eagle, then where was Stride in the interim?
A third possibility, of course, is that BS Man was a club men who pushed Stride down, or possibly killed her (as Clack suggests), and then departed without entering the club. The only possibility here we could actually put a name to would be Schwartz.
All in al, IF BS Man were a clubman, I believe Morris Eagle is the most likely culprit, but he would not have been Stride's murderer.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
This is not 'wild speculation', though it's only one possibility among many. However, Morris Eagle or possibly Joseph Lave make the most sense here. The last person to enter the club by all accounts was Morris Eagle, at approximately 12:40am. This is a fact he could not change, nor could he keep the people inside from telling this to the police. It is certainly possible that upon turning into the gateway, he was surprised by the woman blocking his path, trying to push her services on to him. He pulled her out of the way and pushed her down, yelling 'Lipski' at Schwartz. Where I disagree with Rob is that I don't see him then taking her into the yard and killing her with one slice of a knife. Stride wasn't a rage killing at all.
What possibly recommends Joseph Lave is that he said he 'walked no further than the end of the street', which was probably Commercial Road, since the end of the pathway would not have been much of a walk. Schwartz did not describe seeing anyone turning ONTO Berner Street from Commercial Road, which is interesting, because once he turns on to Berner Street, he's behind BS Man who is walking towards the club as though he had also just turned on to the street. Of course, the problem with this is if Lave was BS Man, and entered the house 5 or 10 minutes prior to Eagle, then where was Stride in the interim?
A third possibility, of course, is that BS Man was a club men who pushed Stride down, or possibly killed her (as Clack suggests), and then departed without entering the club. The only possibility here we could actually put a name to would be Schwartz.
All in al, IF BS Man were a clubman, I believe Morris Eagle is the most likely culprit, but he would not have been Stride's murderer.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott
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