Koz - No First Name in Marginalia

[Bridewell]

Who has suggested this?

Regards, Bridewell.

Who else has been using this you were a policeman do some investigative work

I haven't read of anyone suggesting it, hence the question. I'm guessing you haven't either.

Regards, Bridewell.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Trevor,

Hats off.

You've got the Greek Chorus heckling.

Have a great time in France.

Regards,

Simon

[Monty]

Hi Trevor,

Hats off.

You've got the Greek Chorus heckling.....
Regards,

Simon

......As you try frantically to back out of the room.

Like I say Simon, reap what one sows.

Monty

[PaulB]

Hi Trevor,

Hats off.

You've got the Greek Chorus heckling.

Have a great time in France.

Regards,

Simon

I believe the Greek Chorus was necessary to explain the action to an audience, Simon. In this case what you mistake as heckling, is sadly a necessary explanation to an actor who hasn't grasped the plot.

[Garry Wroe]

Excellent opening para, Gary.

Many thanks, Paul. The irony, of course, is that if I’m correct and the solution to the Seaside Home conundrum has been staring us in the face all along, it vindicates both your own scholarly approach to Ripper studies and Trev’s insistence that we slaughter the many sacred cows which serve only to confuse the case. If we knocked politely on a few more doors rather than attempting to kick them down, we might find a great deal more common ground on the other side.

[PaulB]

Many thanks, Paul. The irony, of course, is that if I’m correct and the solution to the Seaside Home conundrum has been staring us in the face all along, it vindicates both your own scholarly approach to Ripper studies and Trev’s insistence that we slaughter the many sacred cows which serve only to confuse the case. If we knocked politely on a few more doors rather than attempting to kick them down, we might find a great deal more common ground on the other side.

Thanks Garry. But you are testimony to the fact that we do question the sacred cows, and also slaughter them if necessary, and always have done. In many respects we only advance historical understanding by looking at existing evidence in different ways. What Trevor doesn't understand is that he is advocating nothing new, that his questions have all been asked (and in many cases answered).

[Garry Wroe]

But you are testimony to the fact that we do question the sacred cows, and also slaughter them if necessary, and always have done.

Thanks, Paul. Much appreciated. I have to say, though, that I have on a number of occasions been on the receiving end of 'agenda' accusations. It would be a great deal more civilized hereabouts if people would concentrate on the evidence and leave the unfounded slurs in the playground.

[Scott Nelson]

Beyond a labyrinth of assumption and supposition there is not a shred of evidence to substantiate the contention that Stride fell victim to the Whitechapel Murderer. In point of fact, everything about the Berner Street crime suggests that it was unrelated to the Ripper series....The sequence of events appears to have been that Kosminski came to the attention of investigators and was viewed by Schwartz, who identified him as the man he had seen assaulting Stride....The real flaw in Anderson’s conclusions relates to the Stride murder and its automatic inclusion in the Ripper series. Had this crime been evaluated purely on the evidence it would have been treated as incidental, and Kosminski could not have been assumed to have been Jack the Ripper, even in the event that he did kill Stride – which to my mind is extremely doubtful.

But the second woman's (Eddowes) throat was cut 45 minutes later, less than one half a mile away from Berner Street, and the description of the man seen assaulting Stride is similar to the man seen with a woman by Lawende at the top of Church Passage. For all we know, Kosminski may have headed back to Duke Street to wait for brother(s) or uncle(s) to emerge from the Imperial Club, but then changed his mind when he saw a woman standing alone.

[Wickerman]

The apparently staggering drunk in Berner St. suddenly got awful nimble, and sober, to dash off to Mitre Sq. and outpace the police away past Goulston St.
Or, perhaps the man just had a permanent limp. Did Kosminski have a limp?

Regards, Jon S.

[Phil Carter]

The apparently staggering drunk in Berner St. suddenly got awful nimble, and sober, to dash off to Mitre Sq. and outpace the police away past Goulston St.
Or, perhaps the man just had a permanent limp. Did Kosminski have a limp?

Regards, Jon S.

Hello Jon,

Perhaps the limp went with his blue eyes and the humpty backed waistcoat.

Sorry, couldn't resist it.

best wishes

Phil

[Tom_Wescott]

Hi Scott,

Garry, Paul Begg, Don Rumbelow, Trevor, et al, ad infinitum, labor under many irrelevancies and false conclusions where the Stride murder is concerned, leading them to believe the Stride was not a Ripper victim. In the case of Begg and Rumbelow, it might just be a case of them wishing to appear 'hip' or whatever, by taking on newer and currently popular (though fleetingly so) points of view. In the case of most others, this nonsense is attributable to the fact that virtually every book to date is grossly underinformed, or misinformed, regarding the Stride murder. But that, I suppose, is my issue alone, and not of great concern to most others.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Scott Nelson]

Thank you, Tom. The balance of probability would tell me that Stride was a victim of Jack the Ripper.

[Cogidubnus]

Appreciated

My gut-feel (and perhaps nothing more) leads me to rebel against the final conclusion in Post 308 on this thread...However, it is one of the most well-constructed and beautifully logical postings I've ever seen on Casebook...Thanks Mr Wroe!

Dave

[Bridewell]

Paul & Trevor

Hi Scott,

Garry, Paul Begg, Don Rumbelow, Trevor, et al, ad infinitum, labor under many irrelevancies and false conclusions where the Stride murder is concerned, leading them to believe the Stride was not a Ripper victim. In the case of Begg and Rumbelow, it might just be a case of them wishing to appear 'hip' or whatever, by taking on newer and currently popular (though fleetingly so) points of view. In the case of most others, this nonsense is attributable to the fact that virtually every book to date is grossly underinformed, or misinformed, regarding the Stride murder. But that, I suppose, is my issue alone, and not of great concern to most others.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Hi Tom,

Paul Begg and Trevor Marriott are in agreement on something?
One or other of them will have to have a re-think, surely!

Regards, Bridewell.

[robhouse]

Hi Scott,

Garry, Paul Begg, Don Rumbelow, Trevor, et al, ad infinitum, labor under many irrelevancies and false conclusions where the Stride murder is concerned, leading them to believe the Stride was not a Ripper victim. In the case of Begg and Rumbelow, it might just be a case of them wishing to appear 'hip' or whatever, by taking on newer and currently popular (though fleetingly so) points of view. In the case of most others, this nonsense is attributable to the fact that virtually every book to date is grossly underinformed, or misinformed, regarding the Stride murder. But that, I suppose, is my issue alone, and not of great concern to most others.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

I for one have always considered Stride was a Ripper victim. Never doubted it for a second.

Rob H