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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
    Who is William Hodge?
    The publishers of Trial of George Chapman (William Hodge & Company, Limited, Edinburgh and London), and the rest of the books in the "Notable British Trials" series, Stephen.

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  • Stephen Thomas
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    Originally posted by Roy Corduroy View Post
    I said someone should write a book about him. It's already been done. The Trial of George Chapman by William Hodge, 1930 which included a large section about Chapman as the Ripper.
    Hi Roy

    It's actually called Trial of George Chapman (no 'The' for some reason) and the author is H. L. Adam.

    Who is William Hodge?

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  • george chapman
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    Very measured I'm sure, but we are not in a court of law here and it appears to me there are NO other even half decent suspects as they were either mad, wrong build, didnt look like witness descriptions and had no surgical knowledge and thats just to get us started.
    I believe that puts him in a minority of one not to mention the fact the murders started when he arrived and continued in the USA when he moved there. He was also hung for murder.

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  • Ben
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    I don't think anyone has made a definite assertion that "it wasn't him", George. A number of posters have offered good reasons for filing him under "probably not", which contrast markedly with your approach of: "It was Klosowski. It's obvious. Show me why I'm wrong".

    Generally, the onus is on the accuser to make the case for a specific suspect, rather than being placed on everyone else to prove that suspect innocent.

    Regards,
    Ben

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  • Roy Corduroy
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    George, my bad, I said someone should write a book about him. It's already been done. The Trial of George Chapman by William Hodge, 1930 which included a large section acout Chapman as the Ripper. Have you read it?

    Roy

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  • george chapman
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    Chapman did it.........

    For crying out loud people. You have all the facts and figures about chapman and you still witter on about changing his mo. How about he gets out his black & decker and carves up his three wives and then says it wasn't me guvnor in his best east end accent. CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHY IT WASNT HIM?

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  • Ben
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    Hi Billy,

    Chapman employed a horrible callousness and daring, characteristics akin to the Ripper crimes; and besides which, there have been a great many cases of serial murderers varying their MO.
    But rarely, if ever, to such a drastic extent.

    Serial killers who resort to physical violence will often vary the type of physical violence, but they tend not to forgo violence altogether when revising their method. More problematic than the "how" is the "why". Why did he start marrying his victims when he was getting along fine with his usual approach of killing strangers? I don't think it's quite enough to assume that maybe there was something that caused his circumstances to change.

    Best regards,
    Ben

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  • Billy Bulger
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    Why, among Chapman-nay-sayers is there such a preoccupation with the fact that murders legally attributed to this surgeon-cum-barber did not involve a knife or violence? I'm not a shrink but for me, a man who could slowly poison women who cared for him to death is a man who is capable of anything. Further, in murdering his wives over prolonged periods, Chapman employed a horrible callousness and daring, characteristics akin to the Ripper crimes; and besides which, there have been a great many cases of serial murderers varying their MO.
    I'm not saying I think Chapman was the Ripper but i would certainly regard him as high on the list of the more sober candidates.


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  • Ben
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    Hi Mitch,

    The easiest solution for him at that time was poisoning. No murder. No messy cleanup. What more could a fiend ask for?
    Well, he could have continued not marrying his victims and avoid that problem altogether.

    You will be in lots of bother saying things like that!
    Nah Mac. Varqm pops in occasionally with the odd snide one-liner before disappearing for a week. To give him a good dressing-down would be to accord more importance to the situation that in deserves.

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  • mac-the-kipper
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    Originally posted by Varqm View Post
    George hold your position/belief. There are a lot of know-it-all here. They try
    to hoodwink you. They make it appear like they are smart.It's mostly ego with no facts to back it up.
    You will be in lots of bother saying things like that!










    I like it!

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  • mac-the-kipper
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    Originally posted by george chapman View Post
    If anyone says it wasn't Chapman they clearly just want to keep this rolling for rollings sake. Chapman was the Ripper and its pretty bloody obvious.
    Arrest this man immediately!

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  • Varqm
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    George hold your position/belief. There are a lot of know-it-all here. They try
    to hoodwink you. They make it appear like they are smart.It's mostly ego with no facts to back it up.

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  • Mitch Rowe
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    Originally posted by detective abberline View Post
    Hi. If Chapman were Jack he would have used a knife. He didn't. Good post.
    Could you please point me to the Verse that says that?

    EDIT>>> I mean poisoning seems the smart thing to do. Chapman couldnt just Murder them and expect nothing to happen. He could claim they ran away if he could get rid of the body. The easiest solution for him at that time was poisoning. No murder. No messy cleanup. What more could a fiend ask for?
    Last edited by Mitch Rowe; 09-26-2008, 04:45 AM.

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  • Ben
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    Chapman was the Ripper and its pretty bloody obvious.
    Pleas don't be ridiculous, George.

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  • Roy Corduroy
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    Hi George,

    Come to think of it, he would make a good subject for a book. You have his movements about, his known murders, love triangle and hanging. Weaved around him being the Ripper. I'm surprised someone hasn't done that.

    Roy

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