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    Assuming that the astrakan man is a lie....why did Hutchinson lied? I'm new in Ripperology and don't know how much risky it was to go to the police, if you were the killer....
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Morgana LeFay View Post
    Assuming that the astrakan man is a lie....why did Hutchinson lied? I'm new in Ripperology and don't know how much risky it was to go to the police, if you were the killer....
    Hello Morgana

    It has often been discussed that possibly on the night of the murder, George Hutchinson was working as a pimp, a look-out for a gang of thieves, or in some other criminal capacity. He knew that he had been recognized by one or more people hanging about in Dorset Street on the critical night, so he went to the police with the story about Kelly with Astrakhan man. Another possibility is that he might have been a look-out or confederate of the real killer and described a suspect as much different from the way the actual killer looked as possible. In any case, despite their initial interest in his story, the police, for whatever reason, seem to have lost interest in the tale as well as in Hutchinson himself as a suspect.

    Best regards

    Chris
    Christopher T. George
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Morgana LeFay View Post
      Assuming that the astrakan man is a lie....why did Hutchinson lied? I'm new in Ripperology and don't know how much risky it was to go to the police, if you were the killer....
      Hi Morgana
      Its never been proven that he lied, but alot of people think he did. As chris said there could be several explanations:


      1. He lied because he was the killer, knew he had been seen by sara Lewis and came forward with A-man to explain his reason for being there and to deflect suspician from himself.
      2. He lied in an attempt to cash in with the press and police and/or was a just seeking attention.
      3. He lied (as ChirsGeorge just said) because he was a lookout for the killer and wanted to deflect suspician from his accomplice.
      "Is all that we see or seem
      but a dream within a dream?"

      -Edgar Allan Poe


      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

      -Frederick G. Abberline

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      • #4
        there is no accurate suspect description of the guy seen outside, or even Blotchy Face seen going in, it's even worst than Broad Sholders, Lawende's Sailor boy etc etc, they're so bad that they're not worth a second look!

        1..... there is therefore no need for JTR to go to the police
        2..... there is therefore no need for GH to go to the police
        3..... no need for a dastardly duo to do the same
        4..... the police couldn't catch a cold, let alone JTR.....FACT

        WE HAVE

        1....GH went to the police because he did indeed see the LA DE DA Jew
        2....GH is JTR and went to the police to further his anti-semetic hatred/insert himself into the case.

        REALLY WEAK

        1...GH totally lied and went after the reward/ publicity, this is the weakest of the lot, because it looks like due to his statement that he was there

        GH went to the police 2 days too late, right after going to the inquest, this is mega suspicious, but to be sent there by an accomplice is the most stupid thing the killer could ever do, because he risks GH breaking down under interogation, no way and as said there's no need to do this.
        Last edited by Malcolm X; 11-04-2011, 06:17 PM.

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        • #5
          At the risk of initiating a ripperological sh!tstorm, I have to say that I am utterly mystified as to why George Hutchinson is considered such a strong suspect by so many. Perhaps I am being dense. Someone please explain.

          Best wishes,
          Steve.

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          • #6
            count 'em

            Hello Steven.

            "I am utterly mystified as to why George Hutchinson is considered such a strong suspect by so many."

            So many?

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • #7
              Well, he certainly seems to have several champions on here, not to mention Eddlestone who professes to be impartialish.

              Best wishes,
              Steve.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Steven Russell View Post
                Well, he certainly seems to have several champions on here, not to mention Eddlestone who professes to be impartialish.

                Best wishes,
                Steve.
                Those with loud voices are the ones most often heard Steve.

                Until they are silenced of course.

                Monty
                Monty

                https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                • #9
                  handful

                  Hello Steven. May be illusory. I can count a handful.

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • #10
                    hasten the day

                    Hello Neil. Good point. When we, hopefully, find out what was going on in 1888, ALL of us will be silent. I, for one, will be glad when that happens.

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • #11
                      One pebble in a tin can can make a lot of noise if you shake it about a lot.

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                      • #12
                        I can prolly. only think of one reason of him going to the police, and that reason is he read Lewis' testimony. Innocent o culprit, that sure scared him.
                        Now, about why he lied about the astrakan man:
                        Maybe there wasn't a man and
                        1) He didn't wanted to say he was the last man who saw Kelly alive. Wanted to make sure police didn't blame him. Or he himself was the killer.
                        or maybe there WAS a man, and Hutchinson gave a false description. Why?:
                        2) He was involved in something illegal while waiting outside Kelly's house and didn't want that man to be found. Hutchinson was a pimp? Wanted to robe a man who entered the room with Mary?
                        3)He was an accomplice of the killer
                        4)He was afraid that the killer will go after him, what with that rumor of Eddowes wanting to denounce the killer and getting herself killed

                        What do you think?
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                        • #13
                          Morgana,

                          Did you come on the London Job earlier this year?

                          Monty
                          Monty

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                          Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                          http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                          • #14
                            Hi Monty : )

                            No, sorry....sadly I live in Spain, and I've only been in that a-w-e-s-o-m-e city once, and less than a week
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                            • #15
                              Apologies Morgana,

                              I seem to have confused you with someone else.

                              Hope you can make it back one day. And for a while.

                              Monty
                              Monty

                              https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                              Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                              http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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